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Lol what is it with review sites not being transparent about settings? Madshrimps shows game benches without even a single word on the settings/resolution/quality used.
It doesn't really matter as long as they use the same settings for each tested platform. They aren't testing the game...they are testing the hardware. Plus they might have a page on their site that goes into those details so they don' t have to include it in every review. These are the legit reviewers that people have been waiting for...you just sort of have to trust them when it comes to those things.

Having said that...I feel sick. I was really expecting a FX8120 to be on par with 2500k performance once both CPUs had a good OC on them. It looks like it will barely win or match it on a couple things...but be far under in the rest.

These aren't even good for the server market...not with that power consuption. Power saving is what the server market is all about these days save for the instances where performance is everything.

A Bulldozer based server CPU might get used where threaded performance is everything, but at that power consuption you could almost have another Xeon added to the rack. I'd have to look it up, but I am sure it is close. It doesn't matter if it had more cores, there is no way a couple more threads on one CPU will match the performance of another system.

Perhaps for a company that doesn't care about the utility bill, but at the same time doesn't want to spend a lot on hardware? I don't see many companies doing that...not even the ones known for more of the stupider moves. i wouldn't be surprised to find out that AMD was using Xeons on their servers.
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It really isnt that huge of a fail though guys. For those of you building BF3 systems, you want this processor lol:
GPU limited.
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Why according to the results they'll beat your rig.
O rly?

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...ssor-review/13

Once it gets up to 4.6 it starts trading punches with SB in multi-threaded...in single-threaded it compares nicely to Old Faithful Thuban.
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If what you are saying is right about the possible performance increase then it will be interesting.

I like Hilbert's reviews, I've found him to be more reliable than most, and he does claim that BD is being hampered by software. As another poster mentioned when the A64 was first released it also didn't perform as well as it could have but after a few tweaks it beat anything and everything Intel threw at it. It would be really interesting if we have the same situation here.
Just like with any new hardware, you have to program the software to be able to take advantage of it. Programs aren't going to miraculously know how to utilize it. Just think of all the GPUs' and how drivers have noticeably improved their performance.

However, this might also just be a stepping stone kind of like how Fermi's initial release led to today's much more powerful cards.


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O rly?

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...ssor-review/13

Once it gets up to 4.6 it starts trading punches with SB in multi-threaded...in single-threaded it compares nicely to Old Faithful Thuban.
Once again focusing on synthetics. Show me real-world.
Edited by BlackOmega - 10/12/11 at 6:35am
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O rly?

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...ssor-review/13

Once it gets up to 4.6 it starts trading punches with SB in multi-threaded...in single-threaded it compares nicely to Old Faithful Thuban.
Yes but you have to take into account 2500k can be overclock as well, to a well average of 4.5ghz.......
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Just like with any new hardware, you have to program the software to be able to take advantage of it. Programs aren't going to miraculously know how to utilize it. Just think of all the GPUs' and how drivers have noticeably improved their performance.

However, this might also just be a stepping stone kind of like how Fermi's initial release led to today's much more powerful cards.
I will hang on to what I have and see whether Win 8 brings any improvements. If it does then I will look into BD again. In the meantime I will keep an eye on these threads.

I wouldn't be surprised if MS release some patch to improve or optimise performance a little, like they did when Intel released their P4 HT's.
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Well, bulldozer's performance is kind of disappointing... At least I wont waste any money on it!
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i was hoping to upgrade my 1100T but it doesnt even look like its worth it, maybe i'll spring for a 2600k in a few months or wait for Ivy
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O rly?

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...ssor-review/13

Once it gets up to 4.6 it starts trading punches with SB in multi-threaded...in single-threaded it compares nicely to Old Faithful Thuban.
Great. Comparing an overclocked processor that draws >150w at that frequency against a processor at stock that draws 95w. :3

Sounds fair, and logical? Totally.
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Once again focusing on synthetics. Show me real-world.
"Real world"? So you'd be fine if AMD or Intel released Athlon64 or a Core2Quad level chips today marketed for the enthusiast/performance market, since in real world you couldn't tell the difference?
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