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Originally Posted by Jodiuh;15284048 
Well, I had a Forte and a DX. Sold the Forte, kept the DX.

3. CMSS3D DESTROYS sound quality. Dolby Headphone does not.

Keep the DX.

Talking right out of your ass.
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1. The Creative software package IS garbage. Switching modes, options in 5 different places on the same GUI, yuck! Some options only available in certain modes.

2. Through a Pimeta amp to either my 580's or 770's, the DX sounded cleaner, crisper.

The Op was asking about the Titanium HD not the forte. Don't even attempt to try and compare those two as being the same. Driver and Sound wise, night and day difference. I can say this with great confidence since I owned the DX prior to upgrading to the Titanium HD.
Edited by mim3tic - 10/12/11 at 7:49pm
post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by mim3tic;15285437 
Talking right out of your ass.



The Op was asking about the Titanium HD not the forte. Don't even attempt to try and compare those two as being the same. Driver and Sound wise, night and day difference. I can say this with great confidence since I owned the DX prior to upgrading to the Titanium HD.

I second that..

By the way just noticed your GTX-470 is Clocked @ 850 MHz. Just wondering how your VRM's are cooled and what might be your GPU V core ??? headscratch.gif
    
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post #13 of 27
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Talking right out of your ass.
So you do not notice a difference in sound quality between CMSS3D on/off or using Dolby Headphone?
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Originally Posted by mim3tic;15285437 
The Op was asking about the Titanium HD not the forte. Don't even attempt to try and compare those two as being the same.
Why not? The drivers are exactly the same. Why should I have to switch modes just to change the resample rate? I like that the Asus panel has the option right there in plane sight.
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Originally Posted by mim3tic;15285437 
Driver and Sound wise, night and day difference. I can say this with great confidence since I owned the DX prior to upgrading to the Titanium HD.
Just out of curiosity, what's your headphone setup like? Are you using an amp or going directly from the source?

The OP mentioned SQ in the first post. I just don't see the logic in spending $120+ for a sound card upgrade when using the DT235's. A much bigger upgrade would come from simply upgrading to a better headphone.
Edited by Jodiuh - 10/13/11 at 1:02am
post #14 of 27
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh;15288733 
So you do not notice a difference in sound quality between CMSS3D on/off or using Dolby Headphone?

Both tech alters the sound. Its just the way that how one's ear accepts it. CMSS-3D takes the vocal to the center channel [On a 6 Channel Speaker Setup] , as if it were like a Pr-encoded 5.1 Channel Surround Sound. A proper amount of CMSS-3D effects sounds brilliant as i had reviewed myself Face-to-Face with my own X-Fi Prelude with a Xonar D2X.

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Why not? The drivers are exactly the same. Why should I have to switch modes just to change the resample rate? I like that the Asus panel has the option right there in plane sight.

Some people find it annoying to switch between modes [Gaming, Entertainment, Audio-Creation]. But its absolutely fine with me as i never had to switch it from AC-Mode. Its just that you need to be on Gaming mode for EAX 5.0 but the question is where is EAX-5.0 ?. And AC-Mode for more than 2 ASIO-Channel mapping & Recording purpose.
    
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post #15 of 27
I used to use CMSS3D all the time for its sound positioning. But when a friend w/ an STX came over for a LAN, I had a chance to listen to Dolby Headphone and while not as accurate, seemed to have lifted a giant veil from the explosions. There was a definite space in between all the gun fire. It sounded more "fun" and a lot less fatiguing on the ears.

Another buddy has a Bravura and doesn't use CMSS3D for the same reason. I just figured, that's 3 of us and formed a consensus.

Don't you have to be in Gaming mode for CMSS3D? I remember switching out of AC after listening w/ Foobar for games.
post #16 of 27
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Why not? The drivers are exactly the same.

That is where you are wrong. The Titanium HD uses a brand new, totally re-written driver that was built from the ground up specifically for Windows 7.

As for DH vs CMSS my position as for which one is superior has always been split. In certain games CMSS dominates while in others I prefer DH. Also I am a huge Battlefield fan, and Asus has been a huge disappointment in BC2. Even BF3 beta i compared my dx2 on my second Win7 HDD and again the Titanium had more precise positional cues, clarity between sound events etc...

I ought to mention that I have found the Titanium HD to be the less fatiguing sound card I have ever owned.
Edited by mim3tic - 10/13/11 at 2:08am
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by J.M.D;15288529 
I second that..

By the way just noticed your GTX-470 is Clocked @ 850 MHz. Just wondering how your VRM's are cooled and what might be your GPU V core ??? headscratch.gif

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post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by mim3tic;15289056 
That is where you are wrong. The Titanium HD uses a brand new, totally re-written driver that was built from the ground up specifically for Windows 7.
They look exactly the same to me as my old Forte's drivers. confused.gif

And you still haven't mentioned what you're listening on or if you're coming straight from the card or not. That might explain our 180 degree difference in opinion, lol. confused.gif

Does the Ti HD support Dolby Headphone? I did notice a bit of trouble picking out folks in BF3...more so than BC2. CMSS3D would have come in handy there. Hopefully that'll change as they continue to update the beta for the next three years. tongue.gif
Edited by Jodiuh - 10/13/11 at 3:05am
post #19 of 27
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They look exactly the same to me as my old Forte's drivers

That is not the driver. Your referring to the Console which does look the same.

To answer your second question. I am using a ASGARD Amp connected from the cards RCA line outs. I have multiple headphones.
post #20 of 27
Driver/console/gui, you had to know what I meant...but seem hell bent on disagreeing w/ everything I've said...rather rudely I might add...odd for OC.net. frown.gif
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