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For gaming and general not so much, for heavy threaded apps, for sure, and for the sake of being on this forum. most definitely.
Uh? On average the FX-8150 and FX-8120 beats the Phenom II/Core 2 Quads do to its superior prefetching

Crysis 1 @ 800x600 Low it is a far distance
80-90 FPS C2Q/Phenom II -> 110-120 FPS FX -> 140-150 FPS i7 1st and 2nd gen

up the the NB and HT Link Frequency to QPI and Sandy Bridges NB (3.0GHz NB and 2.6GHz HT I think) and you should achieve the same FPS as the i7s
^-- problem is you can't do this all the way....AMx Socket...*sigh*
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hey guys , After the experience fx 8150 , Do you think it a good choice ?
If your going to cool it on air I would just go with a 1090/1100t. If your going to overclock the crap out of an 8150 and try for 5.0-5.2Ghz 24/7 you will need h2o and about 360mm of radiator cooling. I had 240mm of cooling with an antec kuhler 920 (so custom loop would be better at same rad surface) and most I could do was 4.8Ghz, at that my 1100t at 4244mhz was faster in benchmarks. I benched at 5.0Ghz and still slower, but stuff like cinebench pulled ahead of the thuban chip. I ended up selling my 8150 within 3-4days since I didnt see the point with my current cooling and the need of a better gpu (560ti)

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Kinda shows how stong the 1100T is, it hasnt dropped in price, darn
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8150 is more fun though

Phenom II was fun and all, but after 4 years, it got kinda boring :/
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Thought I'd share my experience with FX 4100

A lot of fun, nice to play around with something new and not have a feel for it (Phenom II got a bit predictable at the end lol)

Flickr set
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronag...7627813914773/

5057MHz/2248MHz NB/1872MHz RAM validation:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2059921
Voltage was a bit high for that validation, using lower volts now I'm getting to know the chip a bit better.

I'm finding it's not as happy with high HT reference clocks as Phenom II. The best HT ref clock it can run stable is about 280. This is in contrast to my old Phenom II which was stable to about 315 in this mobo. Also, it really needs a good mix of HT ref and multi for overclocks.

The CPU NB needs 1.3125v for 2400 to 2500MHz, around 1.2625v for 2300MHz. I am running almost 2000MHz RAM though, so that extra stress could have an impact. (stock CPU NB is 1.2375v)

It was happy to undervolt at stock from 1.3375v to 1.2625v, not bad! Stable with all the usual y-cruncher, prime95 etc.

It's stable at 4.25GHz with stock 1.3375v, still bumping up the multi to see how high it'll go on stock volts. EDIT Doh thought it was at stock, little over at 1.3625v

Memory performance is way ahead of Phenom II, scales very well with CPU NB overclocks (but that's probably not news to anyone here )

FX 4100 performance is... interesting, sorta like a Phenom II X3.3 That's probably a little unfair to it, for gaming it's almost identical to Phenom II X4 from my experience.

It needs 4.9GHz to match a 3.45GHz Phenom II X4 in Cinebench 11.5, multi-core ratio is 3.2x to 3.33x depending on CPU NB clock.

Some applications clearly need optimisation. Geekbench 2.2 shows great performance in some areas, but poor in others (sometimes way below what you'd expect compared to similar tests). Think the linked test was around 4900MHz, 2500ish NB, 1866ish RAM (can't remember bah!)
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/504185


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...4.25GHz with stock 1.3375v...
The FX-4100 needs much less voltage to achieve same clocks as an 8150. It takes me 1.4125 to keep 4.3 GHz stable for Folding, oddly enough it passes 4 hours or Prime95, Cinebench 11.5, and 3DMark11 at only 1.4 though.
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The FX-4100 needs much less voltage to achieve same clocks as an 8150. It takes me 1.4125 to keep 4.3 GHz stable for Folding, oddly enough it passes 4 hours or Prime95, Cinebench 11.5, and 3DMark11 at only 1.4 though.
my fx-6100 needs 1.45v for 4.3 and 1.5v for 4.5 so since I am on air
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Well Bulldozer is definitely very power hungry, but if you're willing to give it the power and cooling it demands, it does perform very well.
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The FX-4100 needs much less voltage to achieve same clocks as an 8150. It takes me 1.4125 to keep 4.3 GHz stable for Folding, oddly enough it passes 4 hours or Prime95, Cinebench 11.5, and 3DMark11 at only 1.4 though.
Ah interesting. I might have to try some folding to see if it causes any instability (I was using y-crunch/prime for stability testing).

I just amended my post, thought I had it stock but actually running at 1.3625v *facepalm*
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Bulldozer has all the instruction set architectures Thuban has except for 3dnow!(Which was always irrelevant)



It is a Intel and AMD thing not just AMD FX processors.... just telling the likely hood of you hitting that BSOD is like the chances of you getting into space and your ship blowing up

Then I blow up a lot of ships.

Everytime i even attempt to play deus ex, it BSOD. Every. Time. I never got to play that game once. I'm just waiting for the promised fix for it.

Didn't try shogun, but I did try BF3, crysis, metro 2033, stalker pripyat, shattered horizon, COD black ops, all of those work fine.
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Going to ask people with hand-on experience (and hopefully out of sight of Intel-fans ^^ )
Has anyone done some testing with gaming + fraps? I would reckon these 8 cores would come in handy for this. (more specifically: BF3 + fraps but any decently multithreaded game should be an indication; perhaps mess around with affinity (3 modules for the game, 1 for fraps?))

Getting a bit bored with my 955 atm but not sure if I should get a 1090 or try the 8120/8150...
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