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I don't see how you need 1.45 V at only 4.25 on a 6100. I'm at 4.56 GHz on a 8150 and I only need 1.4375

I think the issue here is FSB...I have mine at 250 and can not run under 1.47v @4.6 stable. Heck...i have not gotten it stable at 1.47 either. It would be nice to post screen shots of our settings so we can see what is goin on.
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I'll post some screenshots of my bios tonight and add them to an album
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I'll post some screenshots of my bios tonight and add them to an album
Sweet.

I been getting pretty frustrated to get my rig stable to 4.6 using a 250 FSB.

What setting should i have the memory at if im using 250 FSB? Right now i have it at ddr3 2000, if i set it at ddr3 1666 do i have to change my FSB?

Im not used to the ASUS UEFI
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I think the issue here is FSB...I have mine at 250 and can not run under 1.47v @4.6 stable. Heck...i have not gotten it stable at 1.47 either. It would be nice to post screen shots of our settings so we can see what is goin on.
Also, your BIOS setting may not reflect actual voltage applied to the CPU. To most accurately measure this, you need a multimeter, but the actual BIOS readout (as well as CPU-Z and/or apps supplied by the motherboard manufacturer) should be fairly accurate, within a few tenths of a volt.

For example, my BIOS voltage setting is actually 1.5v, but the Hardware Monitor in BIOS, CPU-Z and MSI Control Center all read 1.464v idle and 1.410v under stress-testing loads.

The only way around this, is to use LLC (or similar features), if your motherboard supports it. Mine does not, so I have to aim high.

Additionally, with Bulldozer specifically (maybe other CPUs, too - not sure), higher multipliers with lower FSB need less voltage than higher FSB and lower multipliers. I believe this is covered in this article, but is a good read either way: http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ts-coming.html
    
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I'm at 240 which gives me a 1920 memory clock and lets me keep stock timings. I get 55.6 ns and 11.7 gb/s in maxxmem. I uped the CPU-NB to 1.175 to be on the safe side and running ~2400 MHz Northbridge and ~2000 hyperthreading
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I don't see how you need 1.45 V at only 4.25 on a 6100. I'm at 4.56 GHz on a 8150 and I only need 1.4375
well I do. Anything less and its not stable under prime95. I can goto 4ghz on stock 4.1 at 1.4v but it just takes more juice for 4.25-4.3ghz 1.5 for 4ghz. I think it is a problem with this board and the crazy vdrop more then anything.
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I just installed a FX 6100 into my Gigabyte 890FX-UD5. I've disabled the features in BIOS(CIE, C&Q, etc), yet I notice that the multiplier throttles back. Is this an issue with other motherboards?
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does the same thing with my 990fx-ud5. I emailed support and they act like they have no idea what I am talking about. If you load AOD and turn on turbo and back off it will lock in correctly until you boot the next time. If you don't want to do that set your freq to 250 it seems to help with the throttling a bit. I also noticed the step down is at 15x so if you never went past 15x it works fine. I hope the next bios release fixes this. I am at 4.250ghz 250x21x @ 1.45v which seems to be the best temp and performance wise for mine.
must be a Gigabyte problem. I have Turbo turned off in the BIOS and experience no multiplier throttling on my Asus mobo.

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I don't see how you need 1.45 V at only 4.25 on a 6100. I'm at 4.56 GHz on a 8150 and I only need 1.4375
X2

i'm at a stable 4.0GHz on stock voltage which is under 1.3V with my 6100.

Are you guys not using LLC?
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Can anybody elaborate on the differences between the 8120 and the 8150? Has the 8120 been able to OC as high as the 8150?
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must be a Gigabyte problem. I have Turbo turned off in the BIOS and experience no multiplier throttling on my Asus mobo.



X2

i'm at a stable 4.0GHz on stock voltage which is under 1.3V with my 6100.

Are you guys not using LLC?
what LLC? We have no LLC option on ours that's part of the problem. Well increasing volts to cpu-nb and nb a little and got it down to 1.42v @ 4.375 now and running prime. So far so good. Before I would get a sum out error pretty quick or it would lock up. Now under prime only 2 cores are dropping back to 15x at a time. Under cinebench it is holding the max speed but on idle it still throttles back. It is a gigabyte problem for sure. I hope a newer bios fixes this.
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I don't like LLC. If you do some googling, you'll find it can cause unhealthy voltage spikes. You're better off with a lower OC. Plus, as I said earlier: the setting you make in BIOS may not reflect the actual voltage applied to the CPU. You need to check with HW Monitor in BIOS, CPU-Z or other tools, OR better yet, a multimeter.
    
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