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I think it works quite well, a LOT better than my 555 BE.



Care to explain further?

Bulldozer isn't exactly selling poorly (been OOS for weeks now)

Socket FM1 sales are likely very strong

Radeon is doing just fine

They are reporting revenue increases....

so yea, I am pretty confused by your statement.

They have been arround over 40 years. They aren't going to disappear from a single bad product.
They ain't selling well, they are oos because nobody has them.

Stock was EXTREMELY low for launch. Something like 1000 pieces for all 3 lines into Europe, yet to see a single BD chip in the UK through retail.

Selling well my bum bum.
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When you have 1000 ppl wanting a CPU and you release 100 to be sold, yea they go fast. Nothing in comparison to having 100,000 people wanting a CPU and offering 200,000 to the market. This is the difference between AMD and Intel and I wonder why AMD is laying off 1400 employees?
    
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I haven't had much time yet to play with it yet, so i haven't done a long stress with OCCT (1 hour) but it is taking 1.485v.
If by erroring you mean one or two cores dropping into testing, have you shut of APM? there is a built in power feature that drops cores when it hits 26.5A draw. APM needs to be disabled so this does not happen. I hope to get some tweak-test time tonight. i will post some screens when I get a 6 hour stable OC. as far as temps go, so far i am very happy with my Silver Arrow 3 fan setup. I think it its doing very well for a CPU that draws north of 325w.
Ehume in the Silver arrow club forum thought it was 'classic weird' so I will let you decide
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Here is my validation,So I can join.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2085015

Anyone got ideas on how I can get 4.2-4.4 raising the BUS speed over 200? When I do my RAM goes unstable, no matter how I increase the CPU-NB voltage.
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Here is my validation,So I can join.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2085015

Anyone got ideas on how I can get 4.2-4.4 raising the BUS speed over 200? When I do my RAM goes unstable, no matter how I increase the CPU-NB voltage.

Lower you ram clock speed, then increase the bus speed. Say start at 1333(for example). When you increase bus speed you increase your memory clock as well. If not then your memory probably just cannot handle it. Go high as you can then run memtest, to see of your memory is stable. You should be able to get 4.5-4.8, with that cooler you have. You disable tubro core?
Edited by pwnzilla61 - 11/6/11 at 3:00pm
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Care to explain further?

Bulldozer isn't exactly selling poorly (been OOS for weeks now)

Socket FM1 sales are likely very strong

Radeon is doing just fine

They are reporting revenue increases....

so yea, I am pretty confused by your statement.

They have been arround over 40 years. They aren't going to disappear from a single bad product.
Your statements are replete with contradictions and actually support my fears that AMD may be at a real choice point as to its future. Does the architecture of the BD represent something unique and for the future or just an over-hyped "single bad product".

In this day and age big corporations can go belly up due to a single mis-step.

Motorola once dominated the cell phone market but failed to embrace the clam-shell concept. Bye Bye Motorola cell phones.

How about Blackberry? It failed to keep pace with a new and improved OS?

Kind of sounds like you are flailing at the wind and not facing the reality that Pile Driver is the next great hype to follow on the heels of BD. And Pile Driver will only be 10% faster than BD which itself in many tests is put to shame by the lowly 1090T and of course INTEL.
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I haven't had much time yet to play with it yet, so i haven't done a long stress with OCCT (1 hour) but it is taking 1.485v.
If by erroring you mean one or two cores dropping into testing, have you shut of APM? there is a built in power feature that drops cores when it hits 26.5A draw. APM needs to be disabled so this does not happen. I hope to get some tweak-test time tonight. i will post some screens when I get a 6 hour stable OC. as far as temps go, so far i am very happy with my Silver Arrow 3 fan setup. I think it its doing very well for a CPU that draws north of 325w.
Ehume in the Silver arrow club forum thought it was 'classic weird' so I will let you decide biggrin.gif
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Would love to see some gaming benchmarks
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Your statements are replete with contradictions and actually support my fears that AMD may be at a real choice point as to its future. Does the architecture of the BD represent something unique and for the future or just an over-hyped "single bad product".

In this day and age big corporations can go belly up due to a single mis-step.

Motorola once dominated the cell phone market but failed to embrace the clam-shell concept. Bye Bye Motorola cell phones.

How about Blackberry? It failed to keep pace with a new and improved OS?

Kind of sounds like you are flailing at the wind and not facing the reality that Pile Driver is the next great hype to follow on the heels of BD. And Pile Driver will only be 10% faster than BD which itself in many tests is put to shame by the lowly 1090T and of course INTEL.
Comparing cell phone application fails to cpu hardware is kinda mute, don't you think?Almost every company is losing money this day and age, and it is not going to change anytime soon.
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Your statements are replete with contradictions and actually support my fears that AMD may be at a real choice point as to its future. Does the architecture of the BD represent something unique and for the future or just an over-hyped "single bad product".

In this day and age big corporations can go belly up due to a single mis-step.

Motorola once dominated the cell phone market but failed to embrace the clam-shell concept. Bye Bye Motorola cell phones.

How about Blackberry? It failed to keep pace with a new and improved OS?

Kind of sounds like you are flailing at the wind and not facing the reality that Pile Driver is the next great hype to follow on the heels of BD. And Pile Driver will only be 10% faster than BD which itself in many tests is put to shame by the lowly 1090T and of course INTEL.
Blackberry has a WHOLE bunch of failed products. They haven't released anything good in 10 cycles, and people wonder why they are failing. They aren't failing just because of one launch, it was a series of terrible/outdated products.

your analogies are also quite contradictory (not really sure why you used replete there, I have never heard it used that way) I really don't feel like getting into an eloquence battle here. Trust me, i can do it too. I write all day in a formal tone at school, i come to OCN to relax.

Motorola phones are still very popular. IIRC they are like 3rd or 4th currently (market-share). The RAZR was a clam-shell phone, and until the iPhone, it was the most sought after phone ever.

"put to shame" has the connotation of "bigness" (couldn't think of a better word here :/). I have yet to see anything that says there is a large performance gap between 81XX and 1090T.

Luckily AMD isn't a corporation of "this day and age". they have been around for 40 years. you don't just die from one product with a background like that. All major semiconductor companies have bad product cycles. You could have said all the same things about Intel back when they were embracing Netburst, but look at them now, they practically control the enthusiast, and much of the casual market. Look at Phenom, it was sub-par at the time (although this is mostly due to lack of well-threaded applications at the time), and to top that off, they had the TLB bug. They came back, with Phenom II, which is a very successful product.

10% improvement, we will see when we get there. I will reserve judgement.

You also didn't consider the fact that their APUs sell strong, and the Radeon line is also well positioned.

I really find it hard to believe that AMD is going to just drop off because of their first truly "bad" enthusiast level product in 4 years.
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