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this forum is awesome... learning a lot. Never heard of this lapping procedure before.
Who knows, perhaps I'll try it on my chip when I'll have another rig ready. Lots of courage =)

Looking forward for the results.
    
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now i want to go to the hardware store and buy a pile of sandpaper (i'd practice on an old OEM heatsink and p4 cpu first of course!)

Just dunno if I have the guts to pull my 8120 out and do it though.. we'll see..
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hey just a quick question maybe someone here could answer,, is the fx 6100 better then the X6 in performance?
 
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It happened to me a lot on the fatal1ty 990fx mobo, until I got a beta bios that fixed it. (although I ended up changing mobo)
So... maybe the mobo?
you still have the fatal1ty 990fx mobo?
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hey just a quick question maybe someone here could answer,, is the fx 6100 better then the X6 in performance?

In some cases it is but there are some cases it is not. Depends on what you use it for. I think for heavily threaded apps or games are better for 6100 but single core performance is better for x6.

Hope this helps.
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this forum is awesome... learning a lot. Never heard of this lapping procedure before.
Who knows, perhaps I'll try it on my chip when I'll have another rig ready. Lots of courage =)
Looking forward for the results.
Never knew about it until I joined this place. I would never lap since I have a fear of messing it up, but I would buy lapped CPUS my Phenom II 920 I bought lapped.
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Yeah thats pritty much it, Might as well do the base of your heat sink as well if its not perfect.
Shiny does = smooth but not always flat.
The flatness is the most important part, How you do it with out bending pins is stick the chip back in its foam holder that it came in.
Then glide it accross the sand paper letting its own weight do the work. Make sure the sand paper is on something smooth like a mirror.
I wet sand the whole time since it helps the sand paper stick down.
Then use dish washing liquad on the last sand since it makes it glide very easy and makes it shine like a mirror, But cleaning it up can be hard.
Also those Heat spreaders are quite thick. Phenom 2 ones were like 15mm thick, Id love to cut the one off my chip but still dont have the ball to do it yet.

Well if the heatsink is that thick dont you think that if you shaved it down really thin that the thermal performance would be better almost like taking the heat spreader off the chip. I think if you could get heat spreader to like 1-2mm thick then thermals will go down like 10C. You would need something to do this cause most people wouldn't want to sand for 3 days straight. Maybe a belt sander untill you get withing 2-3mm thick and then do the lapping with sandpaper on flat surface.

Also, lapping actually comes from the term they use when they buff the smooth silicon wafers to eliminate imperfections. I seen it on a couple videos and on tv. Pretty neat stuff.

Here is a link to one of the videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWVywhzuHnQ

Check it out. What do you think about sanding heat spreader down really thin instead of popping lid off of chip? Let me know what you think.
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I would like to know how this works out for you too. What did you do to keep from bending the pins while sanding? Please keep us updated on your progress.
Another question. Is there any way to sand it down to where is it really thin? Will this get better cooling and how much would you have to sand to get close to the chip? Or how thick is the heat spreader? Can it be sanded down to like 1/2 mm or less?
I am thinking about lapping mine but if its not really worth it to take the risk of ruining the chip in the process. AMD chips are a little harder since they have pins and intels dont. I dont know if I want to take the risk of benging pins if it only gives me a couple of degrees difference but if its over 8C it may be worth it.


It would take a while to get the heat spreader down to the thickness your thinking. The heat spreader if I mistaken or not is copper with a nickel coating. Lapping the CPU removes the nickel and creates a smooth flat surface. You can do the same with the heatsink to create a better contact. As for the pins, I didn't have the cpu case to use to support the cpu upside down so I just used the hard foam. Your not suppose to put much pressure pushing down on it when going back and forth.

Right now the cpu runs at 5Ghz. It will crash under Prime and OCCT or Intel but I can run Cinebench as well as Heaven DX11 with no issue. The crash isn't a temp issue from what I can see.
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Also, lapping actually comes from the term they use when they buff the smooth silicon wafers to eliminate imperfections. I seen it on a couple videos and on tv. Pretty neat stuff.Here is a link to one of the videos:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWVywhzuHnQ
Check it out. What do you think about sanding heat spreader down really thin instead of popping lid off of chip? Let me know what you think.

Very interesting. Thanks for the link.
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right now prime testing 1.385v at 4.2ghz and slowly moving up to see how high I can go.

I think we just got 'weak' chips..... highest i was able to OC my 6100 is 4.0GHz Stable mad.gif
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