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I would not post the recording without written consent, but you could certainly paraphrase the Q & A though you know the haters will go ape shiite as soon as you do.

Seconded, just paraphrase what they said to each question. Leave it up to individuals whether they believe it or not.
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You sure? I already have them uploaded to you tube. All I have to do is post the link.

What should I do?
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You sure? I already have them uploaded to you tube. All I have to do is post the link.
What should I do?

PM me the link
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PM me the link

Wouldn't mind a PM as well if you decide not to post. Up to you whether you paraphrase, link, or just don't say anything.

I feel buying a 990FX board early should be like a 1 year pass to any and all accurate AMD info.
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It doesn't really matter. Anyone can call and get the same information. And actually they recorded the call too for quality purposes.

If its a big deal they can delete it.
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AMD answers questions...

Here are the two links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg5bnLlZhIw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb5S0P1JOcA

Questions asked:

Windows 7 patch?
Bulldozer revision?
optimizations?
Piledriver?
Performance?
Windows 8 scheduler?
Manufacturing problems?
7000 series radeon?
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post #2187 of 8112
I didnt understand anything .... hehe

Can you expplain us? Its so simple...


Second i repost something i posted there
http://www.overclock.net/t/1181937/fud-amd-piledriver-to-launch-in-q3-2012/70#post_15908070



HI guys......


I just want say the truth : Bulldozer is 315mm^2......................... AMD thusban is 346mm^2....

32 nm gate-first HKMG is 10% cheaper as AMD thusban SOI...

The ploblem is that Llano SELLS and has the half die size( 0.7 with the igpu )... so they profit from the Llanos as they sell more than one chips instead of one...
The profit margin is >45% and the deneb thusban was ~40% . Also intel profit margin is 65%...


As far as the price for 8150 you can buy the 8120 its the same ... And YOU SHOULD not forget that 1100T in December 2009 was prices at 290 Euros and one month ago you could buy it 180 E.....

Also you should know that the yields are very low for Bd and there is a strong demand. SO NOONE IS foolish to sell this chip cheap... When the yields become better and the demand start to fall BD should cost from ( 8120 ) 209 E about 179 E....



The only case you have to buy BD is running rendering , encoding and heavy arithm. calculations

As far the performance we should wait for programs fixes sheduler fixes WIN 7 and WIN8 beta..

None of them had BD now they do...
BD was a disadvantage it consumes power.. Not bat CPU but power consumption is HIGH,..... So this round is lost..

When PHENOM II was out everyone was saying FAL FAIL FAIL but 2010 and 2011 everyone was saying value great performance PII X6 was like i7 930 etc.....

We should wait...


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Microsoft is looking to change that behaviour moving forward, though. Arun says that the dual-core modules have performance characteristics more similar to SMT than physical cores, so the company is looking to detect and treat them the same as Hyper-Threading in the future. The implications there would be significant. Performance would unquestionably improve, while AMD’s efforts to spin down idle modules would be made less effective.

Edited by astrovasilis - 12/12/11 at 4:29pm
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I didnt understand anything .... hehe
Can you expplain us? Its so simple...
Second i repost something i posted there
http://www.overclock.net/t/1181937/fud-amd-piledriver-to-launch-in-q3-2012/70#post_15908070
HI guys......
I just want say the truth : Bulldozer is 315mm^2......................... AMD thusban is 346mm^2....
32 nm gate-first HKMG is 10% cheaper as AMD thusban SOI...
The ploblem is that Llano SELLS and has the half die size... so they profit from the Llanos as they sell 2 chips instead of one...
The profit margin is >45% and the deneb thusban was ~40% . Also intel profit margin is 65%...

As far as the price for 8150 you can buy the 8120 its the same ... And YOU SHOULD not forget that 1100T in December 2009 was prices at 290 Euros and one month ago you could buy it 180 E.....
Also you should know that the yields are very low for Bd and there is a strong demand. SO NOONE IS foolish to sell this chip cheap... When the yields become better and the demand start to fall BD should cost from ( 8120 ) 209 E about 179 E....


The only case you have to buy BD is running rendering , encoding and heavy arithm. calculations
As far the performance we should wait for programs fixes sheduler fixes WIN 7 and WIN8 beta..
None of them had BD now they do...
BD was a disadvantage it consumes power.. Not bat CPU but power consumption is HIGH,..... So this round is lost..
When PHENOM II was out everyone was saying FAL FAIL FAIL but 2010 and 2011 everyone was saying value great performance PII X6 was like i7 930 etc.....
We should wait...
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Microsoft is looking to change that behaviour moving forward, though. Arun says that the dual-core modules have performance characteristics more similar to SMT than physical cores, so the company is looking to detect and treat them the same as Hyper-Threading in the future. The implications there would be significant. Performance would unquestionably improve, while AMD’s efforts to spin down idle modules would be made less effective.

This really dont make any sense. I can understand some of it but not a lot of it. Could you please clarify.
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As for the amd phone call.

They said they dont know anything about windows patch and microsoft would be the ones to talk to.

He says there should be revisions of BD because that is what happened with previous chips, but he is not sure.

As for amd getting out of the desktop market. no. The piledriver is still a go and have no plans of stopping.

He really didnt elaborate on manufacturing problems but he did say there is a high demand for FX chips right now.

He says BD performance is not less than expected. It is performing as expected and it does out perform sb in areas they said it would and in the other areas it doesn't which is more than not.
But they are not disappointed with the chip and their plans are to continue with the architecture.

He said they are making optimizations to the architecture but not sure if its for revision of BD or for PD.

As for the 7000 series gpus said that die size will more than likely be smaller than last series and that they are due to come out any day. He says they are past due and should have been out already.

This is not word for word so thats why I posted the video. It is a 12 min conversation and will not post word for word but if you would like to know something imparticular jsut ask.

Hope this helps. Trying to find out info just like you guys and I hope if you guys hear anything you will share too.
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I can only clarify that.... We should wait for WIN 8 beta at march and program fixes which willl see the cores of BD architecture as INTEL HT i think ... Someone said he saw with BIOS update improvemens ( 1,5% ) in cinebench... just wait.... ( with gigabyte )

The game with single-threads its lost.... Only MT is target for AMD.... and NO SLI -CF.. etc


http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1741/
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AMD isn't going after the super high-end LGA1366 platforms here, which obviously means that when the Intel LGA2011 platform comes out with Sandy Bridge-E processors next month that Intel will once again dominate that market segment. That said, the AMD FX-8150 does stack up well on paper compared to the Intel Core i5/i7 series for the LGA1155 platform.

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Edited by astrovasilis - 12/12/11 at 4:04pm
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