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Are you sure about the radeon hd 7000 series on Triniity cause I seen it here at anand too?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4705/amds-trinity-officially-branded-as-radeon-hd-7000-products
I know this is an old post but maybe the desktop trinity's will support hd 7000 series. Do you have more recent articles on this?

Hope this helps. A little clarification. It will be HD7000 series, but not GCN. That's where I got mixed up sorry. A lot of people automatically assume that HD7000 means GCN, but that's not the case. Also, it will support eyefinity
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Trinity is the next APU from AMD, combining Piledriver CPU cores and VLIW4 GPU (instead of VLIW5 per Charlie), if all goes correctly, you should see AMD giving out sneak peeks and previews in CES 2012 or the Fusion 2012 Developer Summit (CES 2012), you might see a Trinity-powered PC running games too.

http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/04/getting-ready-for-trinity-yet/
Edited by computerparts - 1/9/12 at 4:54pm
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Hope this helps. A little clarification. It will be HD-7000 series, but not GCN. Also, it will support eyefinity
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/04/getting-ready-for-trinity-yet/

I heard from another source that they will be mixing gcn and vliw4 together with the lower end 7000 series. Ill see if I can find it.

Edit: Here I found it but they mean some will be gcn and some will be vliw4 and vliw5.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/11/30/radeon-hd-7000-revealed-amd-to-mix-gcn-with-vliw4--vliw5-architectures.aspx
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Thanks for the post. Looks like the incomplete patch did show some good increases, will you update that when the new patch is released?

Sadly, no. I sold my FX in the end.
I might get a new revision when it comes out, though wink.gif
    
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I heard from another source that they will be mixing gcn and vliw4 together with the lower end 7000 series. Ill see if I can find it.
Edit: Here I found it but they mean some will be gcn and some will be vliw4 and vliw5.
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/11/30/radeon-hd-7000-revealed-amd-to-mix-gcn-with-vliw4--vliw5-architectures.aspx

I believe you're misinterpreting that.

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When it comes to discrete parts, parts with the codename Cape Verde (HD 7500, 7600, and 7700) and Pitcairn (HD 7800), they are all based on the VLIW4 architecture. The "Graphics Core Next" architecture is reserved just for the 7900 Series.

VLIW4 and GCN are 2 different things. They cannot be mixed like how you're thinking. Basically what they are saying is the lower end of HD7000 will be VLIW4 and the higher end of same series will be GCN. Thus, HD7000 series as a whole is a mix of VLIW4 and GCN.

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I just saw your edit. Yes HD7000 will be different things. But we can't assume that HD7000 automatically means GCN because GCN is only 7950/7970/7990.
Edited by computerparts - 1/9/12 at 5:22pm
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High demand for multithreaded programmers. Looking good for AMD. Maybe Bulldozer and its eight cores is a good move for AMD after all. Unlike a lot of the intel fans say that multithreading is so far ahead that by the time it comes around BD will be useless. Always talking out their ass.

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Whatever...
So you are saying that AMD tests all their components and that ASUS, MSi, Corsair, Gigabyte, asrock, gskill, thermaltake etc dont. If you think that AMD doesn't send out defective products just like everyone else then you are entirely mistaken.
I hope you someday realize how the world works and that it isnt fair. It would be nice to think that everyone is out to try to help someone else but thats not the case. It is completely opposite. Most of the world is trying to get over on someone to benefit themselves.
Also, if someone believes that their cpu is not performing up to par then the best thing they could do is do a cross exchange and compare it to another. In the mean time, when they do find out that their first chip was fine, now they can pick the better of the two. No one is losing out here. The retailer sends it back to the manufacturer (in this case amd) and the consumer gets what they want to.
If you think this is dishonest and that people shouldn't do this then I feel bad for you. Usually when someone thinks that no one is out to get over on them, they usually get taken advantage of and dont even realize it.
By the way, when I got my first 8120, I did a cross exchange cause I was having problems with the voltages on the chip and when they sent me the second one, it was defective imo. It would start up and run at stock clocks but the max overclock i could get was less than 4Ghz. The first one I received overclocked to 5Ghz. That is a big difference to me and imo the second chip was defective.
If you get a chip and it is unable to overclock to the average overclock of that chip then imo it is defective and I will return for a chip that will overclock to its max average. If you are happy with a chip that is not performing as well as all the other but it does fine at stock clock and you are happy with it then that is on you. But for me that is unacceptable and will return for a chip that does perform on par with same average chip. I think if you dont then you are only screwing yourself but thats just me. I would never accept a cpu that does not meet the standards of the average performance of that chip. Example: If I got a 8120 and I was unable to overclock to at least 4.6Ghz then I would return for one that did. Thats just me. I want what I pay for. I am not going to pay the same price for a cpu that will not perform as well as the majority of that same chip. IMO if you do accept a cpu that does not perform as well as other chips that are the same then you are just letting yourself be taken advantage of. It not hurting anyone except yourself.

I can see we're off on a tangent here so I'll correct the false beliefs/understandings and we can move on. I've made my position clear and stated that you're completely entitled to your POV. Don't however state what you think I believe or don't believe as you are incorrect in your beliefs.

No I'm not saying that AMD tests all of their CPUs and mobo makers, RAM makers, etc. don't test their's. The better companies do test all of their products and rate them for the appropriate application. DDR3 RAM is a big issue with many newer CPU/mobos. If it's not right it won't function properly with a given CPU/Mobo/BIOS. The FX architetcure is new and the mobo makers are STILL sorting thru the proper BIOS settings which causes much of the problems.

As far as getting what you pay for, no one be it Intel or AMD guarantees OC'ing ability of a CPU. They sell you a speed rated CPU that is guaranteed to function at the speed listed for the CPU. If it doesn't they will replace it, The problem however is usually not the CPU but some other issue with your PC.

Trying to rationalze unscrupulous behavior is a waste of time. If you decide to return a defect free CPU to try and get a CPU that OC's faster - that's a choice you make to be unethical. Legally it's considered fraud. Look it up.

You and only you are accountable for your actions. It's called personal responsiblilty and it's a complete unknown to many young people and ignored by those in denial.

Let's move on.
Edited by AMD4ME - 1/10/12 at 5:39am
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I can see we're off on a tangent here so I'll correct the false beliefs/understandings and we can move on. I've made my position clear and stated that you're completely entitled to your POV. Don't however state what you think I believe or don't believe as you are incorrect in your beliefs.
No I'm not saying that AMD tests all of their CPUs and mobo makers, RAM makers, etc. don't test their's. The better companies do test all of their products and rate them for the appropriate application. DDR3 RAM is a big issue with many newer CPU/mobos. If it's not right it won't function properly with a given CPU/Mobo/BIOS. The FX architetcure is new and the mobo makers are STILL sorting thru the proper BIOS settings which causes much of the problems.
As far as getting what you pay for, no one be it Intel or AMD guarantees OC'ing ability of a CPU. They sell you a speed rated CPU that is guaranteed to function at the speed listed for the CPU. If it doesn't they will replace it, The problem however is usually not the CPU but some other issue with your PC.
Trying to rationalze unscrupulous behavior is a waste of time. If you decide to return a defect free CPU to try and get a CPU that OC's faster - that's a choice you make to be unethical. Legally it's considered fraud. Look it up.
You and only you are accountable for your actions. It's called personal responsiblilty and it's a complete unknown to many young people and ignored by those in denial.
Let's move on.

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Hi guys, my FX have finally arrived thumb.gif, did a speedy OC just to join the club

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Now on to some more OC biggrin.gif

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Hi guys, I was thinking of upgrading my CPU from 1100T to AMD 8150. My question since you guys own it is; Am I going to see any improvments in performance or should I wait for Piledriver? And thanx
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