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SMT is still not working with new patches installed for windows 7

Probably why AMD and Microsoft are saying wait till Windows 8 to get the full performance out of Bulldozer. So right now we are going to have to fend off this constant assault by the Intel Fan Boys and tough it out till Piledriver and Windows 8 drop.
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Well guys, I probably have about 75-100 posts in this FX owners thread and I FINALLY just pulled the trigger on an 8120. Got it for $191 shipped so not a bad deal at all. Taxes included and free ground shipping. I have an H100 lapped and will be also lapping my 8120 but not until I test it out strenuously first of course! Im really excited as I have never had an unlocked cpu before and it will be a new experience. My current phenom II cpu is an 840 with no L3 cache and not a black edition. I have it clocked to 4.3ghz with a 2810mhz NB. Going to put this phenom in another build for my wife, basically a htpc. Anyways I will make a sig and let you guys know when I get it so Reflex can add me. (dont worry I'll send a pm hehe)
    
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Well guys, I probably have about 75-100 posts in this FX owners thread and I FINALLY just pulled the trigger on an 8120. Got it for $191 shipped so not a bad deal at all. Taxes included and free ground shipping. I have an H100 lapped and will be also lapping my 8120 but not until I test it out strenuously first of course! Im really excited as I have never had an unlocked cpu before and it will be a new experience. My current phenom II cpu is an 840 with no L3 cache and not a black edition. I have it clocked to 4.3ghz with a 2810mhz NB. Going to put this phenom in another build for my wife, basically a htpc. Anyways I will make a sig and let you guys know when I get it so Reflex can add me. (dont worry I'll send a pm hehe)

Figured it would happen sooner or later!! I am also thinking about the 8120, and selling my FX-4100 to someone for a good price. But there is always that option to wait for a new revision.... mad.gif
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Well guys, I probably have about 75-100 posts in this FX owners thread and I FINALLY just pulled the trigger on an 8120. Got it for $191 shipped so not a bad deal at all. Taxes included and free ground shipping. I have an H100 lapped and will be also lapping my 8120 but not until I test it out strenuously first of course! Im really excited as I have never had an unlocked cpu before and it will be a new experience. My current phenom II cpu is an 840 with no L3 cache and not a black edition. I have it clocked to 4.3ghz with a 2810mhz NB. Going to put this phenom in another build for my wife, basically a htpc. Anyways I will make a sig and let you guys know when I get it so Reflex can add me. (dont worry I'll send a pm hehe)

Its about time stoler. I know you know everything there is to know about the BD by now. Let us know when you get it and keep us up to date with your results. Not like you wouldnt have anyway.

Good to hear. If you got any questions, feel free to ask.

Also, what mobo you got?
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SMT is still not working with new patches installed for windows 7
I hope they can get it working in Win 7 - There is no way I will use That "Fisher Price" gui they have on Win 8 - I would rather use Win ME than that . So if I am required to use Win 8 for BD they can count me out . I was hoping the Windoze 7 patch and the new stepping on the 8170 would put it better than the 1100t Thuban . I will give it till they release the 8170 if it is still broken then - I will just stick with my Thubans until they become completely obsolete .
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SMT is still not working with new patches installed for windows 7
I hope they can get it working in Win 7 - There is no way I will use That "Fisher Price" gui they have on Win 8 - I would rather use Win ME than that . So if I am required to use Win 8 for BD they can count me out . I was hoping the Windoze 7 patch and the new stepping on the 8170 would put it better than the 1100t Thuban . I will give it till they release the 8170 if it is still broken then - I will just stick with my Thubans until they become completely obsolete .

Man Im not a fan of the UI either, its so tablet/low res too. As computers get more powerful they dull things up, dont get it. I just hope In the full release they make it an easy option to disable. I ran it on my desktop as a virtual machine and hated it, decided to do full install on laptop to try it out in a more "real life" manor. Still didnt like it. The start menu needs to go back to the way it was, scrolling through huge tabs is a waist of time.
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Man Im not a fan of the UI either, its so tablet/low res too. As computers get more powerful they dull things up, dont get it. I just hope In the full release they make it an easy option to disable. I ran it on my desktop as a virtual machine and hated it, decided to do full install on laptop to try it out in a more "real life" manor. Still didnt like it. The start menu needs to go back to the way it was, scrolling through huge tabs is a waist of time.

They do have the ability to disable for regular looking desktop just like win 7.
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They do have the ability to disable for regular looking desktop just like win 7.

I saw a setting for it but the start menu was still all tiled when I used it at the time
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Well guys, I probably have about 75-100 posts in this FX owners thread and I FINALLY just pulled the trigger on an 8120. Got it for $191 shipped so not a bad deal at all. Taxes included and free ground shipping. I have an H100 lapped and will be also lapping my 8120 but not until I test it out strenuously first of course! Im really excited as I have never had an unlocked cpu before and it will be a new experience. My current phenom II cpu is an 840 with no L3 cache and not a black edition. I have it clocked to 4.3ghz with a 2810mhz NB. Going to put this phenom in another build for my wife, basically a htpc. Anyways I will make a sig and let you guys know when I get it so Reflex can add me. (dont worry I'll send a pm hehe)

Figured it would happen sooner or later!! I am also thinking about the 8120, and selling my FX-4100 to someone for a good price. But there is always that option to wait for a new revision.... mad.gif
Well I almost pussed out again and was gonna wait for revision yet again but I went thru with it lol. I had the 8120 in shopping cart and credit card info loaded and backed out because I figured I had waited this long and was thinking the opteron 3200's or the 8170 was due out any day (6 weeks ago or so) the way I see it, the 8120 will be a very nice upgrade for me. I am hoping the 8170 and 4170 will be a good step up but even if it is I wont be upset about my purchase. Guaranteed I will be getting PD when it comes out though and a 1090fx board smile.gif You can probably get $80-$90 for your 4100 and then its just $100 more out of your pocket for double the cores. Im not gonna tell ya to wait and Im not gonna tell ya to get an 8120 either. I know what i'd probably do and I just did it. :-)
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Well guys, I probably have about 75-100 posts in this FX owners thread and I FINALLY just pulled the trigger on an 8120. Got it for $191 shipped so not a bad deal at all. Taxes included and free ground shipping. I have an H100 lapped and will be also lapping my 8120 but not until I test it out strenuously first of course! Im really excited as I have never had an unlocked cpu before and it will be a new experience. My current phenom II cpu is an 840 with no L3 cache and not a black edition. I have it clocked to 4.3ghz with a 2810mhz NB. Going to put this phenom in another build for my wife, basically a htpc. Anyways I will make a sig and let you guys know when I get it so Reflex can add me. (dont worry I'll send a pm hehe)

Its about time stoler. I know you know everything there is to know about the BD by now. Let us know when you get it and keep us up to date with your results. Not like you wouldnt have anyway.

Good to hear. If you got any questions, feel free to ask.

Also, what mobo you got?
"bout time", I know right? Well I am sure I do not know EVERYTHING but I kinda gotta clue that's for sure. I know I am going to make some virtual machines and dual boot my computer with linux woohoo. You know Ill be in and outta here with questions and answers. I'll even take pictures of me scraping the top of the cpu with some 2000 grit sand paper until I can set ants on fire with it (mirror shine for those of you who never tortured ants). I have a ASRock Fatal1ty 990fx and 4x4GB Kingston hyperx 1600mhz (i WILL get some better ram, shooting for a 2000mhz CL8 set) oh gotta crucial m4 128GB SSD too and I love that thing. anyways YAY I am super stoked guys I can not wait! Probably will be here by Friday cause not shipping out until Tuesday due to holiday.
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Yeah I know that intels HT is not fixed but they have released many updates and fixes for windows for it. Also, I would like to see your proof on that AMD and Intel multithreading is the same. Because it wouldnt make any sense the architectures are completely different and require and completely different scheduling. AMD's modules are nothing like Intels HT. Please, I would like to see how someone has somehow made the two look similar. Because they are not. Not at all.
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I'm not saying they are the same.

I am saying they are different

Intel's HT scheduling/coreparking is still broken and it was released in the Windows 2000/XP era while AMD's CMT is getting fixed by Windows 8....

You used the word SMT

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Which is only used in the Floating Point Unit

Intel's Hyperthreading is SMT on everything with certain things aware of objects

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Just wanted to show some recent benchmarks from anand that show the BD doing pretty well against other cpu's

[anandtech] images

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1533501&postcount=1732
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They're incompetent at best, and I wouldn't trust their other benchmarks either.

Don't get on developers bad sides...
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