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I agree there is nothing wrong with the Gigabyte mobos per se. Asus had an advantage working with AMD directly on prototype mobos but even they have not sorted out all the OC'ing features for the BD based FX CPUs. Hopefully all of the mobo companies will get the details sorted in the next few months. BD is a complicated architecture that they are still learning.

The first board I got was the MSI 990FXA GD-80 and when I got the BD I was having all kinds of problems with bios and voltages. Thats why I replaced it with my current board for exactly the same reason you said. ASUS worked with AMD directly with this board and chip. I knew the I would get the best support with the two together.

It is a complicated architecture and its going to take some trial and error to get it right. I think its a really great architecture but like you said they just need to become familiar with it and make the necessary optimizations and adjustments to get it working the way they want it too.
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i have had no issues with gigabyte ud3 board. I almost wished i picked up the crosshair V but after the new gigabyte bios F6f, i am quite happy with my ud3.

I have noticed that it seems the the asus boards are getting the highest clocks. I have reached 5.2ghz on my 8120 on all 8 cores. Granted i did it with super cold ambient air.
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i have had no issues with gigabyte ud3 board. I almost wished i picked up the crosshair V but after the new gigabyte bios F6f, i am quite happy with my ud3.
I have noticed that it seems the the asus boards are getting the highest clocks. I have reached 5.2ghz on my 8120 on all 8 cores. Granted i did it with super cold ambient air.

Yeah I think all the boards are able to clock high its the stability and reliablity part that is the problem for most people. I actually heard that the F6f bios was one of the worse ones but I could be mistaken. I heard that the F6c bios was the better one but that was atleast a month ago. I have actually found more stability in the asus 9920, 9921, and 1003 bios rather than their latest 1102 bios. In the 1003 bios and 1102 bios the CPU and CPU/LLC dont work like theyre supposed to. The 9921 works pretty good and the 9920 works well also. I am using the 9920 cause its the only one that supports individual core disable whereas the rest only disable modules at a time.

I think the 9921 and 1003 have the best stability for CHV board but I would not recommend the 1003 cause of the LLC problems. I will probably update to 9921 cause I was getting the best stability with that one.

I try to stay up to date with other 990FX boards and from what I heard a few weeks ago, Gbyte was not getting that great of bios out to users. that was a while ago though and it could be different now. I was able to get 5.2Ghz with my msi board but like I said earlier I was having problems with stability and voltages too much.
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i only picked the CHV because it had the highest clocks at the time.
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Well if you had votlage lower than 1.42v and at 4.6GHz it should not be the cpu. I would say that its the mobo but thats my opinion. As long as temps werent outrageous. Even still the cpu will shut itself off before heat causes damage to it. I doubt its the cpu but who knows, you wont find out until you replace one of them. Have you tried reseating the cpu and then clearing cmos? I would try that see if you can get it to post. Other than that I dont know other than to replace something. Do you have a different chip to put in the board for now and try it? That way you can tell if its the board or the cpu.

Hope this helps a little. I would try reseatin the cpu and clearing the cmos and try again. If that doesnt work then something definitely needs replaced.

Tried reseating a couple of times and also cleared cmos. Still a no-go. I'll give up for today.

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Tried reseating a couple of times and also cleared cmos. Still a no-go. I'll give up for today.
Thanks for all your help, guys. This thread is a good place to be at. smile.gif I don't write much here (or anywhere else for that matter) but I enjoy reading all your posts. thumb.gif

You're welcome. Come back anytime. We are more than happy to help.
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The BD is rated at 1866Mhz RAM so anything up to that is just fine for the chip. Over that is overclocking. If you want to get 2000Mhz you have to loosen the timings more. Also max temp for 8 core FX cpus is 61C like said above is correct. You dont want to go over that with core temps. Also max safe voltage for 8-core FX is 1.55v so 1.525v is fine. Yeah, you dont want your chip getting that hot. Thats too hot. You should be able to get at least 4.75Ghz with x19 multi at less than 1.5v. Try doing it at 1.475v first and see if its stable and watch temps. If not stable and temps are okay then go to 1.5v. Make sure you got LLC high enough to handle Vcore drop. If its dropping too low, it wont be stable but then again you dont want it too high or it will increase too much and youll get too much heat. You should be able to get 4.75Ghz with 250mhz FSB and x19 multi with the H80. Try different voltages but dont let temps go above 60C. If its getting too hot and youve tried lowest voltage its stable at youll have to back off multi. Go down on multi x0.5 each time until stable and temps are within safe max.
If you got any other question please feel free to ask. Thats what were here for. Hope this helps, good luck.

Didn't work with 1.475, nor 1.5. I think I'll hold off going over 4.5GHZ until I get proper watercooling. Would you kindly tell me what settings I would need for 4.4GHZ, I tried with the previous settings you gave me for 5GHZ, but used 1.4V core instead, and it didn't work...
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The first board I got was the MSI 990FXA GD-80 and when I got the BD I was having all kinds of problems with bios and voltages. Thats why I replaced it with my current board for exactly the same reason you said. ASUS worked with AMD directly with this board and chip. I knew the I would get the best support with the two together.
It is a complicated architecture and its going to take some trial and error to get it right. I think its a really great architecture but like you said they just need to become familiar with it and make the necessary optimizations and adjustments to get it working the way they want it too.

Glad you had good support with Asus. My experience with them as well as many others has been terrible Asus customer support... Gigabyte has been good at releasing new BIOS as soon as they discover an issue or find ways to provide better OC support for the FX CPUs. Obviously AMD is trying to do their part to support the mobo makers and end users but it will take some time to sort it all out.
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Didn't work with 1.475, nor 1.5. I think I'll hold off going over 4.5GHZ until I get proper watercooling. Would you kindly tell me what settings I would need for 4.4GHZ, I tried with the previous settings you gave me for 5GHZ, but used 1.4V core instead, and it didn't work...

Try the same settings except for multi. Leave the voltage at 1.5v and then work your way down. If you just arent getting any luck with 250Mhz fsb then try 225fsb. or even try lowering cpu/nb and ht link down a notch. 2250 for cpu/nb and 2500 got ht. You just got to keep trying different settings.

I would leave the voltage at 1.5v for cpu and cpu llc at ultra high. and try all different FSB, Multi, CPU/NB, HT and RAM clocks until you find something that works. Once you get a nice clock speed then work on lowering voltages. You just got to keep working at it until you find you cpu sweet spot. It does take time. I have had my chip since it came out and Im still working on find different clocks and voltages that work best. Most people enjoy doing this but it seems that you are just looking for a quick high overclock. If thats the case just up your multiplyer and cpu voltage until it becomes unstable then back off multi one step and increase voltage one or two steps and that should be good for now for a quick overclock. Take your time. BD overclocking can get very in depth and thats why most people like it. It takes time and patience. If you dont have that then just work with multi and voltage.

By the way, what is your stock cpu voltage?
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Hey I just saw they are selling OEM versions of the FX-8150 on newegg for $240 (30 dollars cheaper than normal price). So I was wondering, is OEM usually worse than normal? Or is it 30 dollars less because it doesnt come in that bullet proof case it usually does? lol
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106007
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