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Those with unstable overclocks

I think you guys need to start looking into cpu-nb voltage, even if its stock. My 8150 overclocking was only for a week but in some cases acted just like my 1100t and many ways VERY different to overclock. The one thing you always have to look at is cpu-nb voltage. You can run perfectly stable, but at a certain point as cpu core speed rises, even if the cpu-nb is left alone, it will still need a bump in voltage. Also I noticed with the 8150 was that the higher you went on the core, it didnt seem to like the cpu-nb at stock speed. Now my experience was a crash coarse run, several hours spent overclocking within that week though, but always try cpu-nb voltage increase.

Prime especially tends to do a good job hinting to you what caused the failure. If its the cpu speed/core unstable, its either a core will fall out or it will BSOD. I have found though that an instant failure/freeze or a freeze in general is the cpu-nb or memory related. I have also read about certain memory used with BD can cause overclocking issues too. As in compatability somehow.

Not to mention it could be motherboard/bios related, even if its the latest one.


Those that ran the custom pc 2007 bench, thanks! I think it kinda revealed that it isnt a great comparison tool though.
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This board had my cheapo phenom II to 4.309ghz no problem. Plus for $400US I got 990fx fatal1ty, h100, m4 128gb ssd, dvd burner, haf x case and 16gb kingston 1600mhz ram. That is half price and it was all unopened with reciepts from a guy on craigslist. Its def the cpu. I mean I can not get 4.3ghz stable with ANY setting on all 8 cores. I'm gonna fool around in AOD and see what kinda luck I can get. Its obvious I didn't hit the silicon lottery
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It is my experience with FX, is that they seem to like the nb in the 2500/2600 range.

And the HT around 2500 +/-

A little more nb volts.

A little more CPU/NB volts.

And a CPU/NB LLC of HIGH or more.

As far as the Phen II compaired to the FX, not even the same species.

The base clock for the 8120 is 3.1.

4.3 may be asking alot, (as some braggers have clamed that they are running)

You can bet that they are running less to be stable. doh.gif

Keep working it till you find the sweet spot.

Don't give up! thumb.gif
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Image editing: 214 seconds with 13% average CPU usage.
Image editing: 1755 points.
Video encoding: 267 seconds with 34% average CPU usage.
Video encoding: 3068 points.
Multitasking testing: 111 seconds with 21% average CPU usage.
Multitasking testing: 1681 points.
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I unno what I'm gonna do. I just booted at 5.0ghz with 1.52v sooooo def a module problem. Sigh.
edit: booted at 5ghz as a quad core sorry for not stating that. cinebench failed like 90% through though but atleast I was able to get into windows cause before I disabled cores I couldnt even post.
edit #2: Just realized the 4.95ghz cinebench fail was on one core per module. Now I put it on 4 core settings (not one per module) and it passed cinebench. the score was horrible though only 3.73 points with 4 cores 4 threads at 4.95ghz ouch.

Welcome to the club man. Sorry to hear you're having trouble with your cpu. What psu are you running? Gotta remember these things are power hogs when overclocked. Also, are you running the patches?
My PSU is 700watt Cooler Master Silent Pro. I have one HD6850 not OC at the moment. I am going to fool around with the cpu/nb, nb, and ht settings and see what I can get. I do not have a cpu/nb LLC just a LLC for the vcore :-(

I dont really feel I got a "bad" chip, I mean it does the settings it is supposed to do and a little bit more, I just had such a great budget phenom II and it overclocked like a beast for what it was. I am not going to give up thats for sure but its looking like my max stable is somewhere around 4.3-4.4 on all cores with some luck lol. Also wanted to note that the fatal1ty has error code led's on it and some other little lights but when the computer locks up 1 second after I start Prime blend all the lights on the board go out. I dont have to clear cmos or anything just reset switch but kinda weird... Maybe some type of overcurrent protection or something because of the watts being pulled when set so high? What do you guys think? Thanks for all the help also!
    
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I dont know if this will apply here or not, but some of the older phenoms I have had would only OC well with CPU-NB and Core voltages the same. Im talking about 300-400 Mhz difference in final speed. If I had my FX still I would test this out, maybe someone in this thread could give it a go at 1.375 on both voltages.
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I dont know if this will apply here or not, but some of the older phenoms I have had would only OC well with CPU-NB and Core voltages the same. Im talking about 300-400 Mhz difference in final speed. If I had my FX still I would test this out, maybe someone in this thread could give it a go at 1.375 on both voltages.

Yes it is okay to have both cpu and cpu/nb voltages the same. I have had both voltages up to 1.5v together and its not problem. Back in the day the two voltages actually used to be linked and could only be changed together. So there is no reason that cpu/nb voltage cannot be the same as cpu voltage.

Also, I am not sure about the post above but I have found that the most stable cpu/nb and ht clocks are right around the same as stock clocks. cpu/nb at 2200Mhz and ht at 2600Mhz. Personally I run cpu/nb at 2500Mhz and Ht link at 2750Mhz. I definitely recommend running ht link higher than cpu/nb with FX chip since it does come stock like this. Maybe the multi will help with the cpu/nb and ht. Set cpu/nb to x10 and ht to x11, thats were i get most stability.

With my chip atleast it becomes less stable when ht link clock is lower than cpu/nb. You at least want to have them the same imo for best stability results. Good luck. Hope this helps.

I dont know about the 4.3Ghz. the 8120 should overclock to atleast 4.6Ghz imo. I have mine stable at 5.0Ghz and have run prime stable for over an hour and a half. I usually run my system at 4.8GHz though cause it is right on the brink of instability at 5GHz cause when I raise to 5.1Ghz its not stable so thats why I go down a little. 4.8Ghz is no problem for me at 1.475v and absolutely no stability problems lower than 5Ghz. Hope you figure out what it is dstolyer. good luck
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Yes it is okay to have both cpu and cpu/nb voltages the same. I have had both voltages up to 1.5v together and its not problem. Back in the day the two voltages actually used to be linked and could only be changed together. So there is no reason that cpu/nb voltage cannot be the same as cpu voltage.
Also, I am not sure about the post above but I have found that the most stable cpu/nb and ht clocks are right around the same as stock clocks. cpu/nb at 2200Mhz and ht at 2600Mhz. Personally I run cpu/nb at 2500Mhz and Ht link at 2750Mhz. I definitely recommend running ht link higher than cpu/nb with FX chip since it does come stock like this. Maybe the multi will help with the cpu/nb and ht. Set cpu/nb to x10 and ht to x11, thats were i get most stability.
With my chip atleast it becomes less stable when ht link clock is lower than cpu/nb. You at least want to have them the same imo for best stability results. Good luck. Hope this helps.
I dont know about the 4.3Ghz. the 8120 should overclock to atleast 4.6Ghz imo. I have mine stable at 5.0Ghz and have run prime stable for over an hour and a half. I usually run my system at 4.8GHz though cause it is right on the brink of instability at 5GHz cause when I raise to 5.1Ghz its not stable so thats why I go down a little. 4.8Ghz is no problem for me at 1.475v and absolutely no stability problems lower than 5Ghz. Hope you figure out what it is dstolyer. good luck

Im with you on the cpu-nb voltages. I think its easily over looked by many people but is a key part of stability
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My PSU is 700watt Cooler Master Silent Pro. I have one HD6850 not OC at the moment. I am going to fool around with the cpu/nb, nb, and ht settings and see what I can get. I do not have a cpu/nb LLC just a LLC for the vcore :-(
I dont really feel I got a "bad" chip, I mean it does the settings it is supposed to do and a little bit more, I just had such a great budget phenom II and it overclocked like a beast for what it was. I am not going to give up thats for sure but its looking like my max stable is somewhere around 4.3-4.4 on all cores with some luck lol. Also wanted to note that the fatal1ty has error code led's on it and some other little lights but when the computer locks up 1 second after I start Prime blend all the lights on the board go out. I dont have to clear cmos or anything just reset switch but kinda weird... Maybe some type of overcurrent protection or something because of the watts being pulled when set so high? What do you guys think? Thanks for all the help also!

Can you set your LLC for Vcore higher than 100%? Back in one of your postings you said the voltage was reading less than what you had it set. Either you have a bad vdroop or you have APM or another cpu throttling setting in the BIOS enabled.
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Too much LLC with FX will cause instability, you want just enough to maintain a flat voltage between load and idle.

APM / Turbo can cause really odd problems with overclocks, make sure those are disabled. Cool and Quiet can be turned on once you find your max oc to handle high idle temperatures.
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My FX 6100 is running at 4.14GHz, using the automatic overclock function in the new Asus UEFI BIOS.
Still not impressed by its performance lol
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