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proof.gif again...

Not just you saying that its impossible and it cant be done, again and again. Show me some proof legitimate source that a motherboard with 4 slots of dual channel memory cannot be used as quad channel ram. You keep talking about how the motherboard cant do it but how do I know what your saying is true? Im not saying that your lying but trying to explain to me what it is doesnt make the information authentic.

If you fail to understand how a simple bus works the technicalities that make it impossible are beyond you. Im not even going to try to explain further or look for info on my time to sate your request. Just dont be surprised when there is no quad channel on AM3+.
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Sounds good man looking forward to some more advice!
Well there is NO setting in my uefi for over voltage protection but it does seem like that is whats happening. So strange. And with my LLC at 25% and voltage set to 1.4000 in uefi under load cpuz says my vcore goes from 1.392 to 1.408 so thats pretty tight voltages. with LLC at 100% strange things start to happen. Voltages will go from 1.4 volts to 1.288volts under load so that does not do what it is supposed to do. Anyways thanks for the help +1 rep to you guys

Dont know what board you have, but this thing happens on my ASROCK mobo

LLC @ 100% (ASROCK) --->LLC @ REGULAR, DISABLE (ASUS)
LLC @ DISABLE(ASROCK) ----> LLC @ EXTREME, FULL CALIBRATION (ASUS)

Most of the time , when the CPU/NB voltage is too low, the comp will freeze. Try bump it up a lil bit.
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Karath-

We understand that you do not believe AMD can use existing mobos for quad channel RAM. We get it. You're entitled to hold whatever belief you desire. As I noted AMD could most definitely use existing mobos for quad channel RAM if they desired. Insulting people or making your comments personal when people don't agree with your POV does not change reality.

Thus it's best to agree to disagree and move on because none of us know what AMD will actually deliver until it's in our hands.
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proof.gif again...
Not just you saying that its impossible and it cant be done, again and again. Show me some proof legitimate source that a motherboard with 4 slots of dual channel memory cannot be used as quad channel ram. You keep talking about how the motherboard cant do it but how do I know what your saying is true? Im not saying that your lying but trying to explain to me what it is doesnt make the information authentic.
If you fail to understand how a simple bus works the technicalities that make it impossible are beyond you. Im not even going to try to explain further or look for info on my time to sate your request. Just dont be surprised when there is no quad channel on AM3+.

I was just trying to help you guys prove your point. You guys went through like 4 pages arguing about the same thing but neither of you provided any proof. This was for you benefit not mine. I dont really care about quad channel ram, all I care about is the socket.

You were trying to prove a point to someone else who was trying prove what you were saying was wrong but again ,neither of you provided any proof. Why go through 4 pages on a thread to argue about something when neither of you can bring any verification on either one of your points. Now your trying to pull me into it when I was simply trying to help you guys get to a conclusion.

I was a little interested in it but not enough for me to drop down to your level. I guess thanks for the uncredible info. Good luck on future discussions. I was trying to give you some rep too but if you cant provide any credible information to varify what you are saying then sorry I cannot respresent someone who cannot represent themselves.

Moving on now...
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Thus it's best to agree to disagree and move on because none of us know what AMD will actually deliver until it's in our hands.

You may not, I actually do. Believe what you wish.

mikezachlowe2004, Sorry about being kinda harsh to you. I... overreacted a bit to your post. I apologize if it was personal. The reason there is no credible info is that MB design is kinda sensitive info. The fact that the WIKI for dual channel describes it as "two 64bit buses" is all anyone needs to know to know it wont work in quad channel, as you cant subdivide a bus that is on a PCB.
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Dont know what board you have, but this thing happens on my ASROCK mobo
LLC @ 100% (ASROCK) --->LLC @ DISABLE (ASUS)
LLC @ DISABLE(ASROCK) ----> LLC @ EXTREME, FULL CALIBRATION (ASUS)
Most of the time , when the CPU/NB voltage is too low, the comp will freeze. Try bump it up a lil bit.

No these settings are overcurrent protection. You want to have on disabled.

ASROCK - OC Protection - 100%
ASUS - OC Protection - 100%

ASROCK - OC Protection - disabeld
ASUS - OC Protection - disabled

ASUS LLC - regular, high, ultra high, extreme

You defintely got something mixed up.

goes up to 130%.

I would double check to make sure that you are not talking about overcurrent protection because these are the same as asus.

ASUS LLC does not have disabled setting for LLC. However it does have extreme, ultra high, high, and regular. It does not have disabled setting for LLC only overcurrent protection and overcurrent protection if not set to disabled can withold a lot of overclocking potential.

When I set to 120% I could overclock to 4.8Ghz. When I set higher, overclocks less. Only when I disable overcurrent protection can I overclock much higher.

I would double check cause i think you are getting them mixed up. ASUS definitely doesnt have a disabled setting for LLC. This is only for overcurrent protection. Disable it to overclock higher.

Dystolyer, this applies to you too.
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Thus it's best to agree to disagree and move on because none of us know what AMD will actually deliver until it's in our hands.
You may not, I actually do. Believe what you wish.

So you know for a fact that piledriver will be on am3+ and will not support quad channel memory? What about a 1090fx board, are they coming out? When is release date for PD and Trinity? Since you know and no one else does, lets hear it.

What are AMD's plans for the next year since you seem to know just about everything?
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No these settings are overcurrent protection. You want to have on disabled.
ASROCK - OC Protection - 100%
ASUS - OC Protection - 100%
ASROCK - OC Protection - disabeld
ASUS - OC Protection - disabled
ASUS LLC - regular, high, ultra high, extreme
You defintely got something mixed up.
goes up to 130%.
I would double check to make sure that you are not talking about overcurrent protection because these are the same as asus.
ASUS LLC does not have disabled setting for LLC. However it does have extreme, ultra high, high, and regular. It does not have disabled setting for LLC only overcurrent protection and overcurrent protection if not set to disabled can withold a lot of overclocking potential.
When I set to 120% I could overclock to 4.8Ghz. When I set higher, overclocks less. Only when I disable overcurrent protection can I overclock much higher.
I would double check cause i think you are getting them mixed up. ASUS definitely doesnt have a disabled setting for LLC. This is only for overcurrent protection. Disable it to overclock higher.
Dystolyer, this applies to you too.

,I was talking about LLC not OC protection
CH IV --> DISABLE ... CH V --> REGULAR for LLC - OFF
ASUS was using DISABLE on older mobos , like CH IV
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There is ONLY LLC settings no overclock protection on ASRock 990fx. I have auto, disable, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%. I get a sick vdroop on 100% and 25% is the most stable. You guys have me so confused lol.
    
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So you know for a fact that piledriver will be on am3+ and will not support quad channel memory? What about a 1090fx board, are they coming out? When is release date for PD and Trinity? Since you know and no one else does, lets hear it.
What are AMD's plans for the next year since you seem to know just about everything?


 

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