Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › AMD FX (Bulldozer) Owners Club!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

AMD FX (Bulldozer) Owners Club! - Page 340

post #3391 of 8112
sweet cooler.. i had one like that sept it was just a push config..
.... i envy your blue ray drive.. .
so heres some tips for your cooling.. . if your gonna be gaming then at least a double radiator and 3000 rpm fans ... also a fan controller in the drive bay helps things alot.
the higher flow water the better cooling. . i found anyways. .
also yo uneed to get your cpu vid up higher
Tandem
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx 8350 Gigabyte 990fx ud4 Radeon 6450 Corsair Vengeance 10Gb total 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Velociraptor 10,000 rpm  on air cooler Windows 7 Home Premium 64 microsoft wedge bluetooth keyboard 
PowerCase
750W Cooler Master Sentey 
  hide details  
Reply
Tandem
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx 8350 Gigabyte 990fx ud4 Radeon 6450 Corsair Vengeance 10Gb total 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Velociraptor 10,000 rpm  on air cooler Windows 7 Home Premium 64 microsoft wedge bluetooth keyboard 
PowerCase
750W Cooler Master Sentey 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3392 of 8112
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Nevets_ View Post

sweet cooler.. i had one like that sept it was just a push config..
.... i envy your blue ray drive.. .
so heres some tips for your cooling.. . if your gonna be gaming then at least a double radiator and 3000 rpm fans ... also a fan controller in the drive bay helps things alot.
the higher flow water the better cooling. . i found anyways. .
also yo uneed to get your cpu vid up higher

This is nothing but air cooling atm. Was thinking about getting a fan controller and how do you get your cpu vid higher up cpu voltage/nb?
post #3393 of 8112
Quote:
Originally Posted by willup View Post

This is nothing but air cooling atm. Was thinking about getting a fan controller and how do you get your cpu vid higher up cpu voltage/nb?

You cant get your cpu VID higher. VID is stock voltage.... You can increase the voltage to your cpu but the VID stays the same. VID is simply the stock voltage your chip runs at out of the box.
FUSION
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD Llano A8-3870k ASUS F1A75-M Pro FM1 uATX Corsair Vengeance Corsair Force 3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi ASUS DVD Burner Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VE247H 24" 1080p Razer Lycosa Corsair CX500 Fractal Define Design R3 ATX 
Mouse
Razer DeathAdder 
  hide details  
Reply
FUSION
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD Llano A8-3870k ASUS F1A75-M Pro FM1 uATX Corsair Vengeance Corsair Force 3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi ASUS DVD Burner Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VE247H 24" 1080p Razer Lycosa Corsair CX500 Fractal Define Design R3 ATX 
Mouse
Razer DeathAdder 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3394 of 8112
FX 8150 / Gigabyte 990fz - ud3 / 8 gb of Patriot Sector 5 1600/
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2222424
Supernova
(12 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500k EVGA Z68 micro sli 2 EVGA GTX 670s Corsair Vengence 16gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Curcial M4 126gb WD 1tb Koolance 240/360 rad, PMP 450s pump, 370 si blo... 10 Bitfenix Spectre Pro PWN fans 
OSPowerCaseOther
Win 7 x64 NZXT Hale90 v2 1000w Bitfenix Raider - modded Mayhems Aurora SuperNova 
  hide details  
Reply
Supernova
(12 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500k EVGA Z68 micro sli 2 EVGA GTX 670s Corsair Vengence 16gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Curcial M4 126gb WD 1tb Koolance 240/360 rad, PMP 450s pump, 370 si blo... 10 Bitfenix Spectre Pro PWN fans 
OSPowerCaseOther
Win 7 x64 NZXT Hale90 v2 1000w Bitfenix Raider - modded Mayhems Aurora SuperNova 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3395 of 8112
Quote:
Originally Posted by xD3aDPooLx View Post

FX 8150 / Gigabyte 990fz - ud3 / 8 gb of Patriot Sector 5 1600/
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2222424

Your CPU-Z link has been invalidated by CPU-Z Meaning its not properly stable. Ill take a guess its because the voltage is too low.
But nice setup.
The board is a 990FXA-UD3, Which bios are you using?
F6C is the only one that work correctly for overclocking at the moment.
Iv got the same board and ram but the 2ghz 8gb kit instead of the 1600mhz 2gb.
Youll find you will probably get limited because you have 4 sticks instead of only 2.
post #3396 of 8112
I've been doing a lot of research, and there's a couple of questions I have:

1. My FX 6100 needs somewhere around 1.43-1.45V to be stable at 4.3GHz. I have not yet narrowed down the lowest voltage I can use at this speed, and I have not tried to push the speeds higher at this voltage either. Is it pretty common for the FX 6100 to need so much voltage for this type of overclock? Cooling is not an issue (see below), though I can't really push this much further due to the power consumption and my PSU.

2. I have read that I want to use the core temps when checking the load temps of the FX 6100. Is this correct? I generally use OCCT for stress testing, and it has temp readings for the CPU and the individual cores. While the CPU temp generally reads higher than the core temps, all are within safe values due to my Kuhler 620 in push/pull configuration.

3. When LLC is disabled on my motherboard, I get voltage drooping. When it is enabled, I get more voltage than I set it at. Unforunately, my M5A97 (non-EVO) motherboard only has an enable/disable option without any fine tuning options. I currently have LLC enabled and set my voltages lower in the BIOS so that they'll match the actual voltage values I want after the voltage increase. Both methods seem just as stable as the other based on my testing. Should it really make a difference either way?
It's A Computer
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500K Biostar TZ77XE3 AMD HD7970 8GB DDR3 1600MHz 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Antec Kuhler 620 in Push/Pull Intake Config Windows 8 64-bit Asus VG236H 120HZ Antec Earthwatts 650W Green 
CaseAudio
Antec 902 Auzentech Bravura 
  hide details  
Reply
It's A Computer
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500K Biostar TZ77XE3 AMD HD7970 8GB DDR3 1600MHz 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Antec Kuhler 620 in Push/Pull Intake Config Windows 8 64-bit Asus VG236H 120HZ Antec Earthwatts 650W Green 
CaseAudio
Antec 902 Auzentech Bravura 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3397 of 8112
as far as i have noticed vid voltage matters...
my sepecs are posted below..
clock ratio - auto (3600)
nb - auto (2200)
turbo - manually set to x24 (4800)
turbo cpb (disabled) this on my board is for cpu perfomance control supposedly BUT disabling it is the only way to get voltage control.
ht link width - 16
all else is default except for...
cpu vid voltage is set at 1.45
cpu voltage at 1.63 <<< im gonna keep dropping this til i see better temps i bet it runs at 1.55

you can bump your vid. it will get stuck at 1.41. its alot better tho. 344
Tandem
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx 8350 Gigabyte 990fx ud4 Radeon 6450 Corsair Vengeance 10Gb total 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Velociraptor 10,000 rpm  on air cooler Windows 7 Home Premium 64 microsoft wedge bluetooth keyboard 
PowerCase
750W Cooler Master Sentey 
  hide details  
Reply
Tandem
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx 8350 Gigabyte 990fx ud4 Radeon 6450 Corsair Vengeance 10Gb total 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Velociraptor 10,000 rpm  on air cooler Windows 7 Home Premium 64 microsoft wedge bluetooth keyboard 
PowerCase
750W Cooler Master Sentey 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3398 of 8112
Quote:
Originally Posted by hans030390 View Post

I've been doing a lot of research, and there's a couple of questions I have:
1. My FX 6100 needs somewhere around 1.43-1.45V to be stable at 4.3GHz. I have not yet narrowed down the lowest voltage I can use at this speed, and I have not tried to push the speeds higher at this voltage either. Is it pretty common for the FX 6100 to need so much voltage for this type of overclock? Cooling is not an issue (see below), though I can't really push this much further due to the power consumption and my PSU.
2. I have read that I want to use the core temps when checking the load temps of the FX 6100. Is this correct? I generally use OCCT for stress testing, and it has temp readings for the CPU and the individual cores. While the CPU temp generally reads higher than the core temps, all are within safe values due to my Kuhler 620 in push/pull configuration.
3. When LLC is disabled on my motherboard, I get voltage drooping. When it is enabled, I get more voltage than I set it at. Unforunately, my M5A97 (non-EVO) motherboard only has an enable/disable option without any fine tuning options. I currently have LLC enabled and set my voltages lower in the BIOS so that they'll match the actual voltage values I want after the voltage increase. Both methods seem just as stable as the other based on my testing. Should it really make a difference either way?

1) It is not unlikely that you would need that much votlage for that clock. You may even need more. I know I need 1.525v for 5GHz. I need about 1.475v for 4.8Ghz. Every cpu is different. Safe max voltage for FX chips is 1.55v
2) HW monitor is a good program to use and yes you want to watch the core temps. You dont want your core temps to go over recommended max.
3) when overclocking you want to enable LLC. You dont want voltage drop under load when overclocking because it makes it unstable unless your already pushing too much voltage threw it. I would leave it enabled when overclocking for best stability.
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Nevets_ View Post

as far as i have noticed vid voltage matters...
my sepecs are posted below..
clock ratio - auto (3600)
nb - auto (2200)
turbo - manually set to x24 (4800)
turbo cpb (disabled) this on my board is for cpu perfomance control supposedly BUT disabling it is the only way to get voltage control.
ht link width - 16
all else is default except for...
cpu vid voltage is set at 1.45
cpu voltage at 1.63 <<< im gonna keep dropping this til i see better temps i bet it runs at 1.55
you can bump your vid. it will get stuck at 1.41. its alot better tho. 344

VID is stock voltage of your chip. CoreTemp shows VID of which is set in bios. But the VID never changes. This is just how CoreTemp reads VID is to read the setting in the bios. VID is stock voltage and therefore cannot be changed. What you are changing is the cpu voltage. VID stand for voltage identification which is the voltage your chip is set at in the factory and out of the box. Best VID's for Bulldozer are between 1.3-1.35v for best overclocking potential. When you say increase VID this is an incorrect statement and should be increase cpu voltage. Just to let you know.

Also that is a lot of voltage you are pushing through your chip. Are you running on LN2 or phase change or something. If not you may want to lower it before you fry your chip. Max recommended voltage is 1.55v on those chips. I have been up to 1.63v myself but its definitely not in the best interests for your chip. Just thought Id let you know if you didnt already. I dont know what kind of cooling you are running. But for 4.8Ghz turbo and 3.6Ghz clock you shouldnt need more than 1.45v. 1.63v is way too high for that clock. I get 5.2Ghz with 1.575v so you may want to think about that.
FUSION
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD Llano A8-3870k ASUS F1A75-M Pro FM1 uATX Corsair Vengeance Corsair Force 3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi ASUS DVD Burner Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VE247H 24" 1080p Razer Lycosa Corsair CX500 Fractal Define Design R3 ATX 
Mouse
Razer DeathAdder 
  hide details  
Reply
FUSION
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD Llano A8-3870k ASUS F1A75-M Pro FM1 uATX Corsair Vengeance Corsair Force 3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi ASUS DVD Burner Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VE247H 24" 1080p Razer Lycosa Corsair CX500 Fractal Define Design R3 ATX 
Mouse
Razer DeathAdder 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3399 of 8112
awesome. so according to what you say i could set the cpu vid back to auto and still see the 1.41 voltage peak in core temp. then ima put the vcore back to 1.60 .. maybe 1.55 later if all goes well. thanks yea cause im tryin to max out this thing
Tandem
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx 8350 Gigabyte 990fx ud4 Radeon 6450 Corsair Vengeance 10Gb total 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Velociraptor 10,000 rpm  on air cooler Windows 7 Home Premium 64 microsoft wedge bluetooth keyboard 
PowerCase
750W Cooler Master Sentey 
  hide details  
Reply
Tandem
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx 8350 Gigabyte 990fx ud4 Radeon 6450 Corsair Vengeance 10Gb total 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Velociraptor 10,000 rpm  on air cooler Windows 7 Home Premium 64 microsoft wedge bluetooth keyboard 
PowerCase
750W Cooler Master Sentey 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3400 of 8112
The VID changes with my BIOS settings, because the VID is what the voltage regulator sees. If the BIOS does not support changing this it is read directly from the CPU, otherwise it is read from the BIOS.
μRyzen
(12 items)
 
Mini Box
(4 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen R5 1400 MSI B350M Gaming Pro Zotac GTX 670 4GB G.SKILL FORTIS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
WD Green 3tb Wraith Stealth Windows 10 Debian 8.7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
ViewSonic VX-2257-8 Chinese backlit mechanical Kingwin 850w Chinese laser optical 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 5350 Asus AM1I-A EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC 2x4GB DDR 3 1333 
  hide details  
Reply
μRyzen
(12 items)
 
Mini Box
(4 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen R5 1400 MSI B350M Gaming Pro Zotac GTX 670 4GB G.SKILL FORTIS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
WD Green 3tb Wraith Stealth Windows 10 Debian 8.7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
ViewSonic VX-2257-8 Chinese backlit mechanical Kingwin 850w Chinese laser optical 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 5350 Asus AM1I-A EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC 2x4GB DDR 3 1333 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › AMD FX (Bulldozer) Owners Club!