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well i just happened to do a benchmark today prior to installing the hotfix on my fx 6100 and then installed the hotfix and ran a test.. the hotfix does help scores
3DMark 11 -- with the patch
P4106
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3DMark 11 -- no patch
P4085
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It does appear that the Win 7 patch makes a few percent points improvement in some apps. It depends on the CPU model and apps being tested.

For reference on your benchmark testing the results are only 1/2 of one percent diff - which would typically be within the error range of the benchmark - but may in fact still be a small gain?
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Well aside from hot VRM's, the Fatal1ty 990FX is a beautiful board, I love mine, the dual-gigabit LAN was a selling feature for me as I have two separate network in my house that I wanted to connect to with my main rig. If you have any questions about the Fatal1ty, ask me here or shoot me a PM.

The Fatal1ty has some beastly heatsinks. Why can't those heatsinks keep the VRM's cool? Is it a bad design? confused.gif
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Well aside from hot VRM's, the Fatal1ty 990FX is a beautiful board, I love mine, the dual-gigabit LAN was a selling feature for me as I have two separate network in my house that I wanted to connect to with my main rig. If you have any questions about the Fatal1ty, ask me here or shoot me a PM.

The Fatal1ty has some beastly heatsinks. Why can't those heatsinks keep the VRM's cool? Is it a bad design? confused.gif

83aa733e_image_preview.jpeg

It's a two part problem, 1 part ASRock, 1 part Corsair.

First problem is that even though the heatsinks are beastly, and secured tight, the fins are really thick, coated in what seems to be more than the average amount of paint, and lots of spacing. There is also the but flat Fatal1ty logo which prevents airflow directed perpendicular to the board. This style of heat sink is perfect for a perpendicular airflow CPU cooler like the stock AMD ones that blow air at the socket, which would then spread sideways through the VRM heatsink.

Part two is related to part one because I am using H100 (same would apply to any water cooling block and any very large tower cooler who's fans overhang the VRM heatsink). There is nothing blowing air over the heatsink at all. So you would need wither a very powerful side case fan aimed at the VRM area at a bit of an angle, or a RAM cooler like I installed:

cdb9c871_5CPU.jpeg
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I love the idea of using RAM cooler over VRM. thumb.gif
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83aa733e_image_preview.jpeg
It's a two part problem, 1 part ASRock, 1 part Corsair.
First problem is that even though the heatsinks are beastly, and secured tight, the fins are really thick, coated in what seems to be more than the average amount of paint, and lots of spacing. There is also the but flat Fatal1ty logo which prevents airflow directed perpendicular to the board. This style of heat sink is perfect for a perpendicular airflow CPU cooler like the stock AMD ones that blow air at the socket, which would then spread sideways through the VRM heatsink.
Part two is related to part one because I am using H100 (same would apply to any water cooling block and any very large tower cooler who's fans overhang the VRM heatsink). There is nothing blowing air over the heatsink at all. So you would need wither a very powerful side case fan aimed at the VRM area at a bit of an angle, or a RAM cooler like I installed:
cdb9c871_5CPU.jpeg

Good info. I'm going to be upgrading to a H80 or 920 here soon, does the memory cooler over the VRMs protrude into your rear exhaust fan level/height or higher? If that's the case, i'd have to settle for a little 40 - 60mm fan.
Edited by Dmac73 - 2/16/12 at 4:43pm
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83aa733e_image_preview.jpeg
It's a two part problem, 1 part ASRock, 1 part Corsair.
First problem is that even though the heatsinks are beastly, and secured tight, the fins are really thick, coated in what seems to be more than the average amount of paint, and lots of spacing. There is also the but flat Fatal1ty logo which prevents airflow directed perpendicular to the board. This style of heat sink is perfect for a perpendicular airflow CPU cooler like the stock AMD ones that blow air at the socket, which would then spread sideways through the VRM heatsink.
Part two is related to part one because I am using H100 (same would apply to any water cooling block and any very large tower cooler who's fans overhang the VRM heatsink). There is nothing blowing air over the heatsink at all. So you would need wither a very powerful side case fan aimed at the VRM area at a bit of an angle, or a RAM cooler like I installed: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
cdb9c871_5CPU.jpeg

Good info. I'm going to be upgrading to a H80 or 920 here soon, does the memory cooler over the VRMs protrude into your rear exhaust fan level or higher? If that's the case, i'd have to settle for a little 40 - 60mm fan.

Yes it does, what case do you have? Is it possible to have the H80's RAD mounted in another location?
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Yes it does, what case do you have? Is it possible to have the H80's RAD mounted in another location?

Cooler Master Storm Scout. I love it, but it's not the largest of cases and that fact alone has me in regret.

Possibly behind my power supply, but i was very much looking forwad to running P/P Intake(cool air). Oh well. Nice build.
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Hmm, well like you said, there's always the option of just mounting some 40 mm fans on the VRM heat sink, since it will be covered by the H80 RAD anyway.
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axipher how did you mount the RAM cooler over the vrms? I was looking into doing that as the CHV mosfet sink also gets pretty warm, but I didnt think thered be any way to mount it without jury rigging it or the case
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