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Ok I'm checking out. So much arguing over the same thing, page after page.
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This is "known" to whom exactly, HMG? Feel free to post the proof of these wild claims at any time. I have run both Phenom and FX and I can tell you that without a doubt the FX is far and away the superior Gaming CPU.
You keep saying how it's "superior" yet fail to show or describe how. A max OC'd 4.7Ghz FX comparing to a PHII running @ only 4Ghz isn't exactly superior when you need 700Mhz more with the addition of faster ram to match it. In Metro, 48FPS sure isn't superior to 56FPS.
As much I'd like to prove you wrong again and and again,the FX thread probably isn't the place to to do it.
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And again, the "proof" you speak of is poor "stock clock" reviews. Show me a benchmark showing the 4100 or 4170 at 4.6GHz vs the PHII 980 at even it's "Max" OC.
It is what it is,the reviews are everywhere,even OC vs OC they would be on par with each other at best.
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Stock vs stock is still valid,you're saying "but this is OC.net,not stockclocks.net?" CPU outta the box testing gives you and idea of how good each CPU is before you even start to OC.
Edited by Heavy MG - 7/15/12 at 12:29pm
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You keep saying how it's "superior" yet fail to show or describe how. A max OC'd 4.7Ghz FX comparing to a PHII running @ only 4Ghz isn't exactly superior when you need 700Mhz more with the addition of faster ram to match it.
It is what it is,the reviews are everywhere,even OC vs OC they would be on par with each other at best.
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Stock vs stock is still valid,you're saying "but this is OC.net,not stockclocks.net?" CPU outta the box testing gives you and idea of how good each CPU is before you even start to OC.

And that's fine. If you want to make a statement that "clock for clock" or "at stock speeds" Phenom II "beats" the FX series CPU's then we'll go from there and examine that. But that's NOT what you've stated (which is to defend snipekill and his rediculous blanket statements such as "The thing you don't understand is, is that the Phenom II 980 is a waaaay better processor than the FX 4170, and beats the 8150 in games aswell." and "I gave you proof that the Phenom II is much better than the FX in gaming.". I find it interesting to note that in the Tom's Hardware results that everyone is posting that it lists all of the CPU's at stock, and then only lists the 2500K at a 4GHz overclock. Why not show all of them overclocked? Why not show the direct competitor to the 2500K, the 8120/8150, overclocked to 4GHz as well? That's very suspicious IMHO.
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This is "known" to whom exactly, HMG? Feel free to post the proof of these wild claims at any time. I have run both Phenom and FX and I can tell you that without a doubt the FX is far and away the superior Gaming CPU.
You keep saying how it's "superior" yet fail to show or describe how. A max OC'd 4.7Ghz FX comparing to a PHII running @ only 4Ghz isn't exactly superior when you need 700Mhz more with the addition of faster ram to match it. In Metro, 48FPS sure isn't superior to 56FPS.
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And again, the "proof" you speak of is poor "stock clock" reviews. Show me a benchmark showing the 4100 or 4170 at 4.6GHz vs the PHII 980 at even it's "Max" OC.
It is what it is,the reviews are everywhere,even OC vs OC they would be on par with each other at best.
588
Stock vs stock is still valid,you're saying "but this is OC.net,not stockclocks.net?" CPU outta the box testing gives you and idea of how good each CPU is before you even start to OC.

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The area I circled is the highest AMD CPU score on the list.

To my somewhat untrained eye it appears to be an FX.

What exactly do you see when you look at this same graph HMG?
    
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The area I circled is the highest AMD CPU score on the list.
To my somewhat untrained eye it appears to be an FX.
What exactly do you see when you look at this same graph HMG?
Hint,it's not not an FX-4.
Two more cores than a Thuban X6,higher stock clock,both average and minimum within a 1FPS difference. And a FX-8150 at that. Not to mention it draws more power and generates more heat. Please note I'm not hating on FX,they're both fine CPU's for whatever you're using them for. I'm just stating the facts most are well aware of,and proving what you're showing me above.
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So the FX is at the top of the AMD list on the list you posted to show that the opposite was true. Thank you for clearing that up. You conveying the reasoning behind why you posted something that showed the opposite of what you were simultaneously claiming was extremely interesting.

Thank you for providing us all with that. thumb.gif
    
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So the FX is at the top of the AMD list on the list you posted to show that the opposite was true. Thank you for clearing that up. You conveying the reasoning behind why you posted something that showed the opposite of what you were simultaneously claiming was extremely interesting.
Thank you for providing us all with that. thumb.gif
While you're failing to notice that it's pretty much on par with a ancient,antiquated so old it might as well be covered in rust & dust PHII,despite the FX-8 having 2 more cores,higher stock clock speed and more cache. The FX-8 performing on par generates more waste heat,consumes nearly 2x more power and requires extreme cooling and a heavy duty circuit breaker to beat a PH II. Thanks for clarifying that an FX-8 is on top by 1FPS,not an FX-4 which is way behind.
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U just dont know what u r talking about mate.
Then please prove how I'm wrong.
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Hi everyone, thumb.gif

Need a opinion from you guys, since anywhere I ask I only get intel fan boys...
Ok I need a new desktop for my house, for maya and autocad, and also gaming biggrin.gif

Should I wait for Piledriver (do you guys know when it's coming out?) or should I buy a fx8120 or 8150 and overclock to 5ghz?

On another thread people said that I'll see a major fps difference around 20-30 against the i5-2500K , and it will bottleneck the two gtx 660 I plan to get.

What's your opinon?

Many thanks everyone for the help . biggrin.gif
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