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One thing to know though is more phases does not always mean better.

Power distribution is key, I have seen some 6+2 phase systems run rings round 8+2. While more phases normally means more power, the more important part is, how is the power distribution setup.

I also went with the ASRock for the 12+2, but I also only finally chose it after doing a fair bit of research on it.
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Im still new to all this kind of. But as far as overclocking isnt a 12+2 better? Wont it allow you to take your system further or not necessarily?
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Im still new to all this kind of. But as far as overclocking isnt a 12+2 better? Wont it allow you to take your system further or not necessarily?

 

Not exactly, having more phases means each phase can be slightly "smaller".  So on a 12+2 system, each phase in the power circuit might handle a smaller amount of the overall power.

 

Having more phases at lower power handling does have it's pros and cons.

 

Some pro's would include slightly lower temperatures at the same overall power, slighlty more stable output since each phase has less stress on it.

 

Some con's could include a higher chance for failure since you are adding more components.

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Some con's could include a higher chance for failure since you are adding more components.

But what if i dont have more components. Like all i have is one gpu, cpu, ssd, hdd, fan controller with 3 fans (2 on gpu and one on cpu)
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This is why I dislike the way most AIB's advertise the product they trick people who do not know what they are doing, or buying into the "more is better"

The best thing any one of us can do, is to take some time and do a little research.
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Lol i didnt even do any research before i bought this thing, didnt even knonw it had 12+2 to be honest but just figured it was better once i realized it did.
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Some con's could include a higher chance for failure since you are adding more components.

But what if i dont have more components. Like all i have is one gpu, cpu, ssd, hdd, fan controller with 3 fans (2 on gpu and one on cpu)

 

I mean more components on the motherboard itself.  Each phase of the power circuitry requires electronic components.  The more little components you add, there's always the chance of increased risk of failure.

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I guess i dont understand what you mean when you say "Each phase of the power circuitry requires electronic components."
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A phase is made of 3 parts
The choke
The mosft
The capacitor

just for the VRM's
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Please add. I sent a pm a long time ago but haven't seen me added yet. This time I am posting and pming. Thanks.

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