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Can anyone advise If the rumor that BD will fit the non black socket?

It was rumored to fit in the CHIVE, but would love someone to confirm before i went and ordered cause I'm not upgrading my CHIVE yet

ASUS has said that BD will work with a BIOS update
BIOS @ http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/Crosshair_IV_Extreme/
    
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Issue is the new sockets are black for AM3+ and but curious if they will physically fit in the white socket.

The bios has been sitting there for a while but it may be designed for a later rev board that has the black sockets
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bd is pin compatible with older am3a sockets.

newer am3b sockets(black) have a couple advantages mostly being able to accept another pin, and larger pins.

first Gen bd obviously does not have such extra pin.

at least that is how I understand it.
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Originally Posted by reflex99;15281860 
bd is pin compatible with older am3a sockets.

newer am3b sockets(black) have a couple advantages mostly being able to accept another pin, and larger pins.

first Gen bd obviously does not have such extra pin.

at least that is how I understand it.

EDIT: It seems you are right:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/47155-amd-bulldozer-fx-8150-processor-review-2.html
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As you can see, our chip was manufactured in the 35th week of 2011. That is a three full months later than our recently reviewed A6-3650 APU sample. This is some very fresh silicon. Like every other AMD processor in recent history, this part's CPU die was manufactured at Fab 1 in Dresden, Germany and assembled in Malaysia.

Although it would take an expert to spot it, these new processors actually have two additional pins when compared to Phenom II's, it still fits in the standard AM3+ socket. Zambezi was designed to work with AMD's newest 9-series chipsets, but it should also work on socket AM3 motherboards, but that will obviously depend on motherboard manufacturers releasing compatibles bioses...and whether they properly designed their motherboards to deal with the higher power requirements that an 8-core chip requires. On a site note, those of you considering purchasing a Zambezi processor should take a look at this blog post from AMD, just to ensure that you have a painless upgrade process.

Phenom_II_X4_980_7.jpgAMD_FX-8150-5.jpg

Top pic is a Phenom II X4 980, bottom pic is an FX 8150. The 8150 has two extra pins. (Bottom left and top right where there are no pins, to make it easy for you)
Edited by linkin93 - 10/12/11 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by Freakn;15281596 
Issue is the new sockets are black for AM3+ and but curious if they will physically fit in the white socket.

The bios has been sitting there for a while but it may be designed for a later rev board that has the black sockets

all CH4E have white socket and as far as I know it will fit
I have one of the 1st CH4E and I have check with ASUS and hey say it will fit and work
AMD has said that only AM3+ and a 900 chip set is supported
but then again AMD said that BD will be much better than older cpu's
Amd 980 cpus did not use all the holes in a AM3 socket
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I'll so a count on the AM3 socket v BD pin layout tonight which will clear it up in my mind as we know there is a BD bios for the CHIVE

Cheers for the posts
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Originally Posted by Tweeky;15282402 
all CH4E have white socket and as far as I know it will fit
I have one of the 1st CH4E and I have check with ASUS and hey say it will fit and work
AMD has said that only AM3+ and a 900 chip set is supported
but then again AMD said that BD will be much better than older cpu's
Amd 980 cpus did not use all the holes in a AM3 socket

AMD doesn't officially support using BD on non 9xx chipsets, or AM3a sockets, but many of them will work via bios updates.

Just no "official" support from AMD.

Not like it means anything anyways.
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I'll so a count on the AM3 socket v BD pin layout tonight which will clear it up in my mind as we know there is a BD bios for the CHIVE

Cheers for the posts
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Hi Guys I just finished making an account to ask a question. Since you guys have a bulldozer chip right now or have one ordered, what version of bulldozer do you recommend? I admit I've been eying that 4100. This is my first build so I don't really have much experience in this

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anyone has a 8150 atm that can Do some benching on Superpi using 4CU/4C
Instead of 8/8 see if Performance is INcreased and OC as well since what 100mhz can do for a 8/8 can increase 200% for 4/4
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Good Lord man, judging by the reviews and everything, I see no reason to go jumping on the bandwagon. I will wait just a bit. If it is anything like it was with the Phenom line of chips I'm sure I'll be glad I did. On paper my 955 is hanging right up there. I want one yeah, but not that bad. And this is coming from an AMD fanboy.
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