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Well, for one, that has nothing at all to do with the max voltage a chip can handle, and 2 if people are right in saying higher-VID BD chips OC better, you lost the chip lotto.
The reason m0bius and I pointed out that some chips come with 1.4v stock is just to show how low that number really is, not to compare your chip to those. Some even go past that with Turbo.

I was only giving my opinion for anyone who wanted it was all, I like to run well, well inside the safe margins for 24/7.

It still stands I will have an 8320 to play with at the end of the week, and the weather forecast is looking like good temps are inbound in time for overclocking smile.gif



I also agree with your assessment on the 6300 for K33.


Edit: While I didnt lose the chip lotto, I didnt win it either, I have been blessed with a mediocre FX-4100 which is good for 4900mhz 1.5v load.

I can't really understand that, I run my 8320 at 1.536v and my Ph II at 1.55v. If it can take it, and I can cool it, let it be so. tongue.gif Only chips I run cold are Llanos. One of em undervolts to 1.225v at stock with 1866. biggrin.gif

An H100 should be plenty of cooling to get the 8320 nice and fast, but it is going to run hot next to that 4100. PD may be better the BD, but not enough to compensate for doubling the core count. I do want to see your results though, there are few people with 8320s in the thread with anything better then an Antec 620.
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I can't really understand that, I run my 8320 at 1.536v and my Ph II at 1.55v. If it can take it, and I can cool it, let it be so. tongue.gif Only chips I run cold are Llanos. One of em undervolts to 1.225v at stock with 1866. biggrin.gif
An H100 should be plenty of cooling to get the 8320 nice and fast, but it is going to run hot next to that 4100. PD may be better the BD, but not enough to compensate for doubling the core count. I do want to see your results though, there are few people with 8320s in the thread with anything better then an Antec 620.


I am a weird person running a FX-4100 under an H100 on a ASRock 990FX Pro arnt I?

Its ok, that will be fixed soon, I might even bust out the high static pressure fans in a push/pull config.
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I can't really understand that, I run my 8320 at 1.536v and my Ph II at 1.55v. If it can take it, and I can cool it, let it be so. tongue.gif Only chips I run cold are Llanos. One of em undervolts to 1.225v at stock with 1866. biggrin.gif
An H100 should be plenty of cooling to get the 8320 nice and fast, but it is going to run hot next to that 4100. PD may be better the BD, but not enough to compensate for doubling the core count. I do want to see your results though, there are few people with 8320s in the thread with anything better then an Antec 620.


I am a weird person running a FX-4100 under an H100 on a ASRock 990FX Pro arnt I?

Its ok, that will be fixed soon, I might even bust out the high static pressure fans in a push/pull config.

Pretty sure there are people on this forum with Llano and Trinity chips under custom loops, so weird is a relative term.
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Yes, you are very accuret, I killed an A8-3500M pushing it out to 4,700mhz.

The scary part (for me) was it ran like that for a while, but I digress, and derail.
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edit,

incorrect info.
Edited by ebduncan - 11/26/12 at 6:56am
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No sir.
The FX series processors do not have disabled cores. The 4XXX has 2 modules, the 6XXX has 3 modules, and the 8XXX has 4 modules. One of the reasons Amd went with a modular approach is so they could do this.

All FX cpus share the same die. A 4xxx has 2 modules turned off, 6xxx has 1 module turned off. There is only one Zambezi die and one Vishera die.
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All FX cpus share the same die. A 4xxx has 2 modules turned off, 6xxx has 1 module turned off. There is only one Zambezi die and one Vishera die.

after doing a fair bit of research this appears to be true. I don't understand it, I thought the reason Amd went to modules is so they could have separate dies per model. If they all share the same die, then well it means AMD cannot really Bin the chips effectively, other than saying it can pass 8350 speeds, or not. But the 4300 and 6300 run nearly the same clock speed. So the only practical binning they can do, is can all cores of the die run at this speed, if 2 cannot it becomes a 6 core, if 4 cannot it becomes a quad core.

Still think their yields would be better if the quad-core was made with 2 modules. and Hexcore made with 3 modules. Would shrink die, save some $$.
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after doing a fair bit of research this appears to be true. I don't understand it, I thought the reason Amd went to modules is so they could have separate dies per model. If they all share the same die, then well it means AMD cannot really Bin the chips effectively, other than saying it can pass 8350 speeds, or not. But the 4300 and 6300 run nearly the same clock speed. So the only practical binning they can do, is can all cores of the die run at this speed, if 2 cannot it becomes a 6 core, if 4 cannot it becomes a quad core.
Still think their yields would be better if the quad-core was made with 2 modules. and Hexcore made with 3 modules. Would shrink die, save some $$.

I'd imagine that every chip aims to be an FX 8350, so any that don't make the cut, become something else.

If they only packaged a chip with 2 Modules (FX 4300) and it only had 1 good module, guess that'd make it an FX 2300? Probably less waste building them with all 4 modules, at least the screwups can still be used.

Now if only they would let them be unlocked biggrin.gif
Edited by ComputerRestore - 11/26/12 at 9:51am
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All FX cpus share the same die. A 4xxx has 2 modules turned off, 6xxx has 1 module turned off. There is only one Zambezi die and one Vishera die.

after doing a fair bit of research this appears to be true. I don't understand it, I thought the reason Amd went to modules is so they could have separate dies per model. If they all share the same die, then well it means AMD cannot really Bin the chips effectively, other than saying it can pass 8350 speeds, or not. But the 4300 and 6300 run nearly the same clock speed. So the only practical binning they can do, is can all cores of the die run at this speed, if 2 cannot it becomes a 6 core, if 4 cannot it becomes a quad core.

Still think their yields would be better if the quad-core was made with 2 modules. and Hexcore made with 3 modules. Would shrink die, save some $$.

Making it all one die is the easiest way to save $$$.

No extra R&D, no extra paying the fabs for other designs, just one big one and they laser off the extra bits, where they just disabled those bits on Ph II.
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I've never seen any of the 7 AMD chips I've owned stay under 15C.

Do you mean Socket Temp, or do you mean the calculated Core temp?

If you mean the calculated core temp. Well hows 13C under load?

CPU @ 1.15v 25% LLC (1.152 fluctuation during load transition, 1.144v under load)
CPU/NB @ 1.15v
Ram @ 1.35v
Ambient 20.5C (69F)
Socket Temp 31c
VRM Termp 32c

H100 Pump speed 2100-2300rpm
Fans @ 900rpm

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Most people in this community like to run big OC's 24/7. I just like to run very low voltage for 24/7

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