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post #7831 of 8112
so wondering out loud, if every chip oc's different and requires different v to clock higher tj max shows 80 and they shut down at 90 i have read that on other sites too that the safe temps should be around 71c to 75c but also their isnt any written proof on any safe or max temp just what we assume based on the chip throttling right so the biggest factors would actually be your psu mosfets and cooling solution. How do they even find/calculate the tj maxx in core temp?.
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post #7832 of 8112
it is on the chip but if you look in the specs for the 8150 it is max recommend temp of 62 so most ppl go off of that
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post #7833 of 8112
I have gone as high as 1.64vcore while running IBT AVX on air but that is not the issue here. What volts and temps it is possible to do with top dollar rigs is irrelevant to this discussion.

D3adsy does not have top dollar equipment and years of experience. Telling him it is ok to run 90C and 1.72vcore is irresponsible and if he follows that advice he will end up with a burned up computer.

That IS relevant.
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i never said to run 1.7v or @ 72c, i said i have with out issue

also to note most of us said to stay @ or below 62

also if he did run @ 90 he would shut down

also you dont need "top dollar rigs" to run a higher vcore, i am running one with a h220, and if you consider that top dollar.....
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post #7835 of 8112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

i never said to run 1.7v or @ 72c, i said i have with out issue

also to note most of us said to stay @ or below 62

also if he did run @ 90 he would shut down

also you dont need "top dollar rigs" to run a higher vcore, i am running one with a h220, and if you consider that top dollar.....


i don't go over 50c :-D even at 1.6 volts
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So correct me if im wrong, but having a watercooling on a CPU it gives me better chances to OC? Even if i don't have a good chip and i need to pump some high voltages in it? BTW thank you all for your thoughts and help cuz i really appreciate it! thumb.gif
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yes, because watercooling can absorb and move more heat then an aircooler can

a great place for more info is

http://martinsliquidlab.org/

i recommend reading all the articles under misc

also a great starting kit is the h220/320, but now i would recommend waiting for the h200x
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So correct me if im wrong, but having a watercooling on a CPU it gives me better chances to OC? Even if i don't have a good chip and i need to pump some high voltages in it? BTW thank you all for your thoughts and help cuz i really appreciate it! thumb.gif
Water cooling has a better heat transfer rate vs air cooling, so water cooling is recommended for higher overclocks. Voltage will vary from chip to chip, at one point there will be a voltage wall on each chip where its needs more voltage for the higher frequency. Each chip does not handle the same amount of voltage for the same temps, with the better cooling you can get most chips around 4.7 to 4.9ghz for the poorer ones and 5+ghz for the better ones. While max core temp is 62C per AMD some such as Mega Man can go a little higher temp wise for shorter periods of time benching and still being stable. Max voltage most go off what phenom chips were which was 1.55v max recommended by AMD, but for FX chips it seems to be more Temp based to really be worried about as well as motherboard vrm's and phase quality.
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Water cooling has a better heat transfer rate vs air cooling, so water cooling is recommended for higher overclocks. Voltage will vary from chip to chip, at one point there will be a voltage wall on each chip where its needs more voltage for the higher frequency. Each chip does not handle the same amount of voltage for the same temps, with the better cooling you can get most chips around 4.7 to 4.9ghz for the poorer ones and 5+ghz for the better ones. While max core temp is 62C per AMD some such as Mega Man can go a little higher temp wise for shorter periods of time benching and still being stable. Max voltage most go off what phenom chips were which was 1.55v max recommended by AMD, but for FX chips it seems to be more Temp based to really be worried about as well as motherboard vrm's and phase quality.
Nice. So it seems that i may/must invest into watercooling. I owned a DIY watercooling some time ago but the pump started to make awful noises so i went back to air cooling.
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Bit offtopic (sorry for that) but will this watercooling kit be good http://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-kit-l360.html? i've heard that EK is quite solid stuff.
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