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Originally Posted by Schmuckley;15456049 
i think i do..err..am3 is the same..rolleyes.gif

pics or you trollin tongue.gif
nijaedit, i need am3+
post #842 of 8112
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Originally Posted by wuttz;15456057 
pics or you trollin tongue.gif
nijaedit, i need am3+

Actually I'm using an AM2/AM2+, and AM3 bracket on my megahalems. Yeah all of them are the same.

It's just the version of it is 2 top pieces, giving more room around the cpu socket.

So for retention purposes it does just fine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by patricksiglin;15452563 
ok my throttling stops if I enable and then disable turbo core in AOD. So I guess the gigabyte bios just sucks right now. Got it to 4.5 stable @ 1.4v cinebench 5.21 which isn't bad on a fx-6100 I guess.

This also worked for me, hopefully a bios/UEFI update will help cause all of it is disabled.
Edited by rx7racer - 10/25/11 at 11:19pm
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Thanks for the great thread reflex99, I love my new FX and look forward to future improvements from AMD.
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lol... I just don't get how you can be happy with a product that fails at everything on stock, but is barely worth the money if it's overclocked to 5ghz.... And still does worse in single threaded apps compared to thuban. And does not out perform it in gaming or folding.. or hardly any other multithreaded apps.... Very dissappointing.
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Originally Posted by reflex99;15454115 
well that blows...yea, TurboV reads the same as HWmoitor CHV CPU sensor, so that makes sense. the other softwares are like 12c lower...

50c under prime at stock....not a whole lot of room to work with here...frown.gif

Even though AMD specs ~max temps at 61C. I asked "The Stilt" about temps and he responded here:
Quote:
Originally Posted by PolRoger;4978988 
That is kind of a bummer!

I noticed that the Turbo EVO temps were running ~10 C. higher. Now I'll need better cooling or reduced clocks... I'm not sure running/crunching ~4.6GHz 8-cores load 24/7 at ~ 50+ C. would be ideal for the chip? What kind of daily (load) temp range do you all think I should shoot for?
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Originally Posted by The Stilt;4978997 
I would not worry about the temperatures until they are 70c+.
These chips are rated to 90c (thermal control, "throttling").

For now I'm going to try and keep my "crunching" load temps to below ~60C.
and I'm also going to try and keep any "short term" tests of Prime/LinX load temps to below ~70 C. via the motherboard's cpu temp probe.
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I have a stable 4.6 GHz overclock. I boot up an the first thing I do is enable/disable Turbo in AOD.

Now my problem is that when my temps seem to reach there max (48 in CoreTemp, 70 on Motherboard CPU sensor), the core will all drop to x7 multiplier at around 1.4 GHz for a few seconds, the temps drop by a degree or so, then they go back up to 4.6 GHz.

I disabled everything in the BIOS and when under full load all cores to stay at the 4.6 GHz up until the point where it seems some thermal throttle is kicking in and clocking down all the cores.

Is anyone else having this problem?



On a side note, as soon as I get above 4.2 GHz, I get some nice coil whine under load and it does disapear then the cores are clocking down to 1.4 GHz. How much coil whine are other members experiencing?
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i know AM2+, AM3 modules work fine,
but im asking for AM3+ modules for the looks.. =))
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Just take an AM3 bracket, and cut the sides off wink.gif
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Originally Posted by reflex99;15426460 
@Pol: Idk what bios settings i am using right now...

# of P-States7
P-StateFID 0x1A - VID 0x0B - IDD 18 (21.00x - 1.412 V)
P-StateFID 0x17 - VID 0x0B - IDD 18 (19.50x - 1.412 V)
P-StateFID 0x14 - VID 0x14 - IDD 12 (18.00x - 1.300 V)
P-StateFID 0x11 - VID 0x1A - IDD 10 (16.50x - 1.225 V)
P-StateFID 0xB - VID 0x25 - IDD 7 (13.50x - 1.087 V)
P-StateFID 0x5 - VID 0x2F - IDD 5 (10.50x - 0.962 V)
P-StateFID 0x10C - VID 0x37 - IDD 3 (7.00x - 0.862 V)


As far as the default FX VID and how it relates to overclocking I'll quote "The Stilt" again...

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt;4980892 
For air, water (+chiller) and mild phase a chip with average leak & VID seems to be best.
There are quite massive differences between the power consumption (= heat) between the keepers & leakers.
The least leaky chip (happens to have the highest VID too...) I got has over 10% lower power draw than the one which has the highest leakage (lowest VID...).

The chip with lower leakage does better on air with 4CU/8C configuration, while the high leaker beats it hands down with only one core enabled. The "keeper" also runs 6c cooler at the same clocks, even the VDD is 0.1V higher.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PolRoger;4981000 
Thanks for the comment!

From what you've said then I gather Dumo's 1.200 VID chip might well be too HOT (power hungry) when attempting to run on air at ~4.6GHz(+) 8-cores as compared to my 1.287 VID sample with a similar o.c. and a higher VDD...

From your experience and from the samples that you've tested... what range or ~ number would you describe as the ideal average leak/VID? A chip(s) that would hopefully offer the best balance of clocks to lowish voltages to low/manageable temps?
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt;4981294 
I got FX-8150 chips with 1.2625V, 1.2875V, 1.3000V, 1.3125V, 1.3250V and 1.3375V VIDs.
The best chips on air have 1.3000V+ VID, the lower ones are simply too hot to be run on air.
The 1.3375V VID chip does ~4740MHz Prime95 LargeFFT stable (4CU/8C) with 1.40V on poor UEX120 + Ultra Kaze 3krpm fan.
After that the third (0-3) compute unit starts failing and does not scale with further voltage.

The chips with higher leakage do only 4550MHz (4CU/8C LargeFFT) or so with 1.35V.
The temperature raises way too high on these and the third CU starts failing at ~70c.

When the power draw / heat is limited by disabling the compute units and leaving only one core active, the lower VID chips do ~5400MHz / 1.49V (light tests) while the low leakers do only 5200MHz or so with the same voltage.

If I would purchase a single FX cpu to be run on air or water, I would want a chip with atleast 1.3000V VID.

The things will probably change as the CPUs get more mature (in terms of manufacturing process) thou.
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Originally Posted by axipher;15459327 
I have a stable 4.6 GHz overclock. I boot up an the first thing I do is enable/disable Turbo in AOD.

Now my problem is that when my temps seem to reach there max (48 in CoreTemp, 70 on Motherboard CPU sensor), the core will all drop to x7 multiplier at around 1.4 GHz for a few seconds, the temps drop by a degree or so, then they go back up to 4.6 GHz.

I disabled everything in the BIOS and when under full load all cores to stay at the 4.6 GHz up until the point where it seems some thermal throttle is kicking in and clocking down all the cores.

Is anyone else having this problem?

Your VRMs overheat. Use a small fan to cool them. If there is possible to cool the back of the mobo(CPU area) too, do it.
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