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7/17/12 at 9:31am

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Originally Posted by halcyon-twin

There's an 8150 in the market for $160 here

Also a 4100 for 75 or 80$

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7/17/12 at 10:16am

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well at 4.6Ghz a full 1Ghz OC over stock and at 1.34 Vcore stock is 1.35

and the Cinebench run

Nice, but Cinebech is not full STABLE. I coud run mine 4.5Ghz Vcore under load 1.376V Cinebench, but not P95. Even at 4.4Ghz where i can run every bench, P95 isnt stable so i cant call it full stable. Run P95 @4.6Ghz on just 1.344V !! If its good, then it is then it is obviously an excellent chip.

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7/17/12 at 10:28am

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7/17/12 at 10:32am

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I play around a lot with my FX8150.

Ran it with 4 Cores Disabled. Didnt' notice much of a difference, which means that the FX 4 Series is a decent chip.
There wasn't much of a temperature difference running only 4 Cores. Although my chip runs nice and cool anyways.
I was checking the lowest underclock and voltage I could do, 2.4Ghz @ 1.2v. (8 cores)
running it at 3Ghz 1.225v works nice too. (8 cores)

Gaming with only 1 Modue active is interesting (2 cores). Although it was playable, there was a lot of stuttering. (BF3, FFXIV)
I haven't tried gaming with an overclocked Module.

There is also the 1 Core per computer unit setting. Which turns it into a 4 Core, 4 Module CPU.
Running it as a 2 Core 2 Module CPU actually works pretty good.

I don't play around much with ram, but I bet you could get a huge Maxmem score overclocking with 2 Core 2 Module and a huge ram overclock.

My chip is stock 1.325v. Runs 4.2Ghz @ 1.35 and 4.6Ghz @ 1.425 and 5.3Ghz @ 1.6v outside in the snow.
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7/17/12 at 10:37am

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Originally Posted by itomic

Nice, but Cinebech is not full STABLE. I coud run mine 4.5Ghz Vcore under load 1.376V Cinebench, but not P95. Even at 4.4Ghz where i can run every bench, P95 isnt stable so i cant call it full stable. Run P95 @4.6Ghz on just 1.344V !! If its good, then it is then it is obviously an excellent chip.

i would seek help in this thread about why you can't get a stable 4.5. it might be your mobo, but if you tell them exactly what fails in prime, then someone might give you the right solution (s) . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1140459/bulldozer-overclocking-guide-performance-scaling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming

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7/17/12 at 11:23am

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You guys are ignoring an important fact. Just because a game runs or cinebench completes DOES NOT mean it is stable. Running not fully stable can lead to corruption of the OS or other files.

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7/17/12 at 11:35am

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Originally Posted by Bubba Hotepp

You guys are ignoring an important fact. Just because a game runs or cinebench completes DOES NOT mean it is stable. Running not fully stable can lead to corruption of the OS or other files.

I would hope that everyone here understands that. The question is exactly where that line of instability is and what exactly defines this line. Programs like P95 over stress your CPU to levels way beyond what it will ever see in actual use. 100% usage full bore non-stop. This causes things to become jammed up in the data pipeline, and of course generates a lot of heat. These two things combine to cause instability. If you run a game and your CPU is nowhere near being at maximum use then neither of the issues that are causing the instability exist.

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7/17/12 at 12:04pm

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Originally Posted by Jagged_Steel

I would hope that everyone here understands that. The question is exactly where that line of instability is and what exactly defines this line. Programs like P95 over stress your CPU to levels way beyond what it will ever see in actual use. 100% usage full bore non-stop. This causes things to become jammed up in the data pipeline, and of course generates a lot of heat. These two things combine to cause instability. If you run a game and your CPU is nowhere near being at maximum use then neither of the issues that are causing the instability exist.

I disagree. P95 doesn't "overstress" your CPU, it "fully" stresses your CPU. By saying "overstress" your implying that it stresses the CPU to a point that you would NEVER see by any other program which is untrue. Running any program that will utilize 100% of all cores will do that as well. Just because 90% of programs out there or games which rely heavily on the GPU and rarely if ever ramp your CPU up to 100% doesn't mean that you won't come across a program or situation that can show instability.

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7/17/12 at 12:14pm

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Originally Posted by Jagged_Steel

I would hope that everyone here understands that. The question is exactly where that line of instability is and what exactly defines this line. Programs like P95 over stress your CPU to levels way beyond what it will ever see in actual use. 100% usage full bore non-stop. This causes things to become jammed up in the data pipeline, and of course generates a lot of heat. These two things combine to cause instability. If you run a game and your CPU is nowhere near being at maximum use then neither of the issues that are causing the instability exist.

I disagree. P95 doesn't "overstress" your CPU, it "fully" stresses your CPU. By saying "overstress" your implying that it stresses the CPU to a point that you would NEVER see by any other program which is untrue. Running any program that will utilize 100% of all cores will do that as well. Just because 90% of programs out there or games which rely heavily on the GPU and rarely if ever ramp your CPU up to 100% doesn't mean that you won't come across a program or situation that can show instability.

A stable overclock should be able to withstand any load, regardless of how unrealistic that load is.

Saying that 100% usage is "overstressed" isn't exactly true as Bubba pointed out. My stance is that the CPU isn't the only thing. Think about folding, I have seen time and time again where people can pass 24-48 hours of Prime95 and Lynx/IBT stress-testing but get random crashes only minutes in to folding before it even maxes out it's temperature.

In that case the memory is making a huge difference as well and also stressing out some motherboard components a little more then just plain CPU stress-testing.

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7/17/12 at 12:42pm

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A stable overclock should be able to withstand any load, regardless of how unrealistic that load is.

Saying that 100% usage is "overstressed" isn't exactly true as Bubba pointed out. My stance is that the CPU isn't the only thing. Think about folding, I have seen time and time again where people can pass 24-48 hours of Prime95 and Lynx/IBT stress-testing but get random crashes only minutes in to folding before it even maxes out it's temperature.

In that case the memory is making a huge difference as well and also stressing out some motherboard components a little more then just plain CPU stress-testing.

Too true. He He...they should call F@H the "ultimate stress tester"

I'll just say this and leave it at that. If you guys want to call your systems stable because it can run a game or "cinebench" that's perfectly fine. Just be prepared for the possibility of losing data and/or having to reinstall your OS. (i.e. make sure your data is backed up)
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