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The so-called "high-performance core" roadmap shows that "Piledriver" is coming out next year and will be succeeded by "Steamroller" in 2013 and the yet unknown "Excavator" in 2014.
The performance per watt is said to increase steadily with each successor. AMD aims at an overall performance increase of 10-15% with each new generation compared to the old one.
source: http://www.computerbase.de/news/2011...er-nachfolger/

Translated: http://translate.google.de/translate...ger%2F&act=url

If this turns out to be true, AMD will never catch up again. With a 10-15% performance increase each year, they will most likely reach SB performance in 2012 and Gulftown performance in 2013-2014 and we all know SB-E is just around the corner and is going to boost performance by 40-50% compared to the 2600k (in terms of the 3960X 6-core).
And I didnt even mention Ivy-Bridge.. doesn't look good AMD.
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At this point, expecting even a 10-15 annual percent improvement from them would be a colossal stretch. I wish that wasn't the case.
    
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For the sake of Intel not getting split up by anti-trust laws I hope they can pull something outa their ass to bump that number...
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I think AMD's idea of performance gain will be to slap a few more cores onto each new CPU. I just don't see the majority of programs actually benefiting from this for a long time, since most don't even need to. I only wonder will the single threaded performance go down on each new generation of the earth mover family of AMD CPU's? I don't see this happening and if it does, it's going to be useless to most people. Most of the benches have x4's beating out the BD in almost everything that most people use their computer for.
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I think AMD's idea of performance gain will be to slap a few more cores onto each new CPU. I just don't see the majority of programs actually benefiting from this for a long time, since most don't even need to. I only wonder will the single threaded performance go down on each new generation of the earth mover family of AMD CPU's? I don't see this happening and if it does, it's going to be useless to most people. Most of the benches have x4's beating out the BD in almost everything that most people use their computer for.

No the idea is to go backward even more

Let's drop another ALU+AGU pair!!!

Steamroller:

32 Cores each with 1 ALU and 1 AGU
and 1 FPU shared between 8 cores with 32bit FMACs that can fuse to do 64bit SSE!!!
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So by 2014 AMDs processors will have comparable IPC to Sandy Bridge?
10% better means slightly less sucky, which is, quite honestly, not even worth considering.
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post #7 of 125
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So by 2014 AMDs processors will have comparable IPC to Sandy Bridge?
10% better means slightly less sucky, which is, quite honestly, not even worth considering.
Not even sure about that.
Sandy Bridge IPC is about 60% better than Bulldozers: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...mance_review/4
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If AMD could boost the number of instructions per module, they wouldn't be in deep doo doo like they are right now. From what I read, there's only an increase in instructions execution rate for every module that's added. Phenom II adds instructions per core, and ends up faster than Bulldozer because of it.
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Here we go....again.
    
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Phenom II anyone? I mean Bulldozer II, sorry....it reminds me when the Phenom I flopped... Round II saved them. its 2007 all over again...
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