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Phenom III anyone?
more like phenom 1.5
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Awesome benchmark pics. Great performance. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got, AMD. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and fast you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
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Originally Posted by 45nm View Post
His comment is based off Intel's marketing slides that claim 47%. In reality though based of the TH preview and demonstrated by the use of highly-multi threaded tasks the number is closer to that of the Nehalem launch performance 10-15% at best.

http://www.techpowerup.com/149464/Co...90X-Intel.html
He's not far off. In fact, he's under rating it in some cases



That's 70% faster in CPU rendering. In highly parallel applications, I believe the claims.


And besides, the 15%(closer to 20%) that you're quote is a direct result of the increase in IPC. It doesn't take into account clock speed.

In this case, the 40% increase(actual as much as 70%) is a result of having more cores
Edited by BizzareRide - 10/12/11 at 8:14am
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post #44 of 125
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He's not far off. In fact, he's under rating it in some cases



That's 70% faster in CPU rendering. In highly parallel applications, I believe the claims.
My comment was in regards to the Original Posters erroneous information comparing the 3960X to the 2600K and claiming 40-50% more performance. Looking at the benchmark that you supplied between the 2600K and the 3960X that is not 70% faster in terms of CPU Rendering. What we see there is 30% more performance in CPU when comparing the 2600K and the 3960X.
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does multi-threading have diminishing returns?
multi-threading has linear returns (unlike frequency scaling which is most often diminishing, though AMD claims to be attempting linear frequency scaling). The problems with multithreading are that
1. not every task can be multithreaded
2. multithreading makes coding more difficult
post #46 of 125
What in the world does CineBench even prove? 3d is better in real world computing, not some skewed open-GL fps test. Put them side my side and try Random Controls Frybench. That's a real 3d app benchmark.
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Originally Posted by toX0rz View Post
source: http://www.computerbase.de/news/2011...er-nachfolger/

Translated: http://translate.google.de/translate...ger%2F&act=url

If this turns out to be true, AMD will never catch up again. With a 10-15% performance increase each year, they will most likely reach SB performance in 2012 and Gulftown performance in 2013-2014 and we all know SB-E is just around the corner and is going to boost performance by 40-50% compared to the 2600k (in terms of the 3960X 6-core).
And I didnt even mention Ivy-Bridge.. doesn't look good AMD.
Maybe it hasn't come to your mind that AMD isn't after performance?

Formfactors are changing, AMD is saying Intel can have the desktop market, the money is in the mobile market now so who cares how much more powerful Intel's desktop CPUs are, AMD simply just doesn't care.
 
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For the sake of Intel not getting split up by anti-trust laws I hope they can pull something outa their ass to bump that number...
Yeah, let's break up the better company who produces better products because AMD sucks.

If this doesn't show anyone the fallacies in anti-trust laws and how they are uncompetitive and destructive to the economy, I don't know what will.

The only true source of monopoly is the government and enforced with laws.
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post #49 of 125
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Maybe it hasn't come to your mind that AMD isn't after performance?

Formfactors are changing, AMD is saying Intel can have the desktop market, the money is in the mobile market now so who cares how much more powerful Intel's desktop CPUs are, AMD simply just doesn't care.
What AMD doesn't understand, though, is that you can't have a dedicated sector controlled by a company like that. It means the end of competition and I doubt AMD can keep up with Apple in the mobile sector even. Have you seen the A5 benchmarks yet? It's a 100% increase over the A4 at the same clock speeds, at the lowest point.

They may not care about single threaded increases much, but it still boils down to just that. If a CPU has lower single threaded speeds than it's previous generation, yet more cores, like with this launch, you see only a marginal increase. Whereas, Intel has been all about increasing single threaded power, therefor when it comes time for all four cores to be used, they gain performance even further. I just don't understand how the engineers thought this was going to pull off.

Seriously, The hell AMD?
     
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Maybe Nvidia can buy into AMD and get them on track building stuff that actually works. It'd be a good way to stick it back to Intel at the same time...
 
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