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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...-desktop-cpus/

I wonder what Mr. Reed is thinking now? I'm sure he reads PC mag or CNET
What is there plan now? Whats next?
-Price Drop?
-Drop FX line up?
-Expand FM1 APU lineup?


And yes if IBM or Samsung bought AMD... wow I like that Idea
They have known this for a while, Makes me wonder if this is the real reason for all the cleaning house of Executives.

This must be why Mr. Reed has been hinting on a new focus of APUs like Trinity.
Is this why Llano still uses Athlon cores?
Edited by cayennemist - 10/12/11 at 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by robwadeson View Post
only 10-15% performance increase every gen? Correct me if i'm wrong but hasn't Intel always achieved 25-30% more performance each new cpu gen?
25-30%? Not really. It's more like 10-15% in terms of IPC improvements.

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Originally Posted by rivaldog View Post
What was the Gulftown Architecture? Wasn't that before/worse than Sandy Bridge? o.O
It was the six core 1366 chips (i.e the 980x). In terms of total output, they're much faster than Sandybridge currently. IPC is still identical to Nehalem, though, so you'll see a 2600k or 2500k pull slightly ahead in applications that don't use many threads.
Edited by GameBoy - 10/12/11 at 8:55pm
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In 2009 AMD released Phenom II, which was able to match the IPC of Intel's Core 2 (Conroe) architecture from 2006.


So by 2014 we can (hopefully) expect AMD to match Sandy Bridge's IPC
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You know what will be fun? How bout a clock per clock comparison, Bulldozer vs Agena (the failed PhenomI).

I'm willing to be BD is worse than even Agena! Hell, it may be as low as a (gasp) Netburst
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As an admitted AMD supporter, I am absolutely disgusted by this release. I dont even understand why they would release this chip that has its "forward looking" architecture, when it so blatantly under performs its predecessors. Shouldnt the engineering team be able to figure out that this arch is terrible and it cannot compete.

At what point did AMD really think this was a Win??? *** AMD, with products like this you deserve to lose customers.

Besides, whats up with these overly assertive names for cpu generations? With a name like excavator or piledriver, you better be burying the competitor, not yourself. Unless pilepooper can drive my car for me while buying flowers for my girlfriend, Im going intel for my next build.

Sorry AMD, if you didnt suck so hard I would still support you.


Sad but true...

PS: I really like the samsung with a x86 license idea. Give the koreans a shot. Probly catch up to intel in like 2 years...
 
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You guys are still beating a dead horse?
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Interesting opinions by pc perspective and tweaktown - too optimistic IMO though.

http://www.pcper.com/news/Editorial/...as-interesting
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/43...tar/index.html
Edited by ekg84 - 10/12/11 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by ekg84 View Post
Interesting opinions by pc perspective and tweaktown - too optimistic IMO though.

http://www.pcper.com/news/Editorial/...as-interesting
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/43...tar/index.html
I agree with what they said. The chip might not perform well now, but AMD will continue to work on the architecture and work out the problems with it. On top of that, software will continue to become more multithreaded. I think in a few years this is going to pay off for them.
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They might as well take one of their GPUs and put some pins on it.
    
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I'm currently is disgust. Not for amd's release(which is still great to me), but to people's nonacceptance.

How dare AMD ( a company that just bought ATI a graphics card company ) make CPU's that are more easily adapted to handle anything graphics related.
I mean gosh, no one has ever complained about intel's integrated graphics....
How dare AMD use a new architecture to get money to support their R&D not like their competition has outrageously overpriced CPUs EVER....

Seriously....

How dare anyone try to make something that will actually perform better whole round in the coming years, than something that meets your insane demands of a cpu so that you can have the bigger e-peen on benchmarks and gain no real world improvements.

I'm drunk right now. To me, anyone complaining about AMD seems to not realize the mass marketing of two decades of intel, and how AMD is now copying them, while lurking... Not saying the current BD is BETTER "IPC" and certain benchmarks, but the ones they care about, are better. BD structure outperforms anything intel has to offer as an all in one solution.
Granted, many people see a need for having 3 FPS in a game they play once a day/week. I mean, who ever heard of gaming at 100 FPS vs 105!!!!!! I better support the top guys and not any sort of competition that doesn't even use their own fab labs god the ghosting on my 60hz lcd screen is so horrible at 100FPS it makes me look like a noob!1111111







Thanks for anyone who read my rant, and actually gets any of it.
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