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I have no clue why, but I feel like selling off my mobo/cpu/memory for a new set up. Oh, I remember, it's because I'm getting a new PSU + second 470!

I honestly do not want to purchase anything, unless I'm getting it used at a great price or until Cyber Monday/Black Friday hits and I can hope for deals.
The reasoning for bringing this up, is for more than one recommendation on the hardware needed.

As far as i5-2500K vs i7-2600K goes, I'm not sure. My plan is to keep this build for quite some time. So I don't mind getting quality or spending a tad more for looks (I'm a sucker for looks). I saw a motherboard on newegg, called Gigabyte G1.Assassin. It was open box for under $400, and was wondering how overkill is that? I like the looks, but I suppose saving money on the motherboard means I can get a better CPU or I could get quality memory. I want to go the budget route, but since I want to keep this build for a while I'm willing to discuss stretching the budget for longevity of the build.
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I have no clue why, but I feel like selling off my mobo/cpu/memory for a new set up. Oh, I remember, it's because I'm getting a new PSU + second 470!

I honestly do not want to purchase anything, unless I'm getting it used at a great price or until Cyber Monday/Black Friday hits and I can hope for deals.
The reasoning for bringing this up, is for more than one recommendation on the hardware needed.

As far as i5-2500K vs i7-2600K goes, I'm not sure. My plan is to keep this build for quite some time. So I don't mind getting quality or spending a tad more for looks (I'm a sucker for looks). I saw a motherboard on newegg, called Gigabyte G1.Assassin. It was open box for under $400, and was wondering how overkill is that? I like the looks, but I suppose saving money on the motherboard means I can get a better CPU or I could get quality memory. I want to go the budget route, but since I want to keep this build for a while I'm willing to discuss stretching the budget for longevity of the build.
Ooo, which PSU are you getting?

Anyway, just under $400 for an open box motherboard? To be honest, if an open box motherboard costs just under $400 (or even over $200 for that matter), then it's likely extreme overkill unless you want to do some very extreme overclocking using sub-zero cooling. I mean, aren't open-box items usually significantly cheaper than their full retail counterparts?

Regarding 2500K vs. 2600K: if all you're practically doing with it is overclocking and gaming, then the 2500K is the better choice. If you get a P8P67 board (any of them except for the "LE"), then you will be able to get a socket 1155 Ivy Bridge chip when they come out. So you won't need to get the 2600K just to "make sure", so to speak. If you are doing other things that can take advantage of Hyper Threading (which doesn't include gaming), then the 2600K might be worth it.
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Just the person I wanted to see. Super Tim to the rescue! I need PSU recommendations as well, but a lot of people have been saying _____ 750w.
Not sure what to do, two years ago I should've bought that brand new enermax 1050w for $80 I never knew it was such a killer deal, now I'm patiently waiting for black friday/cyber monday - I hope you're around, I'd do anything for someone to point out what to splurge on.

BTW, I game but like to do videos - so rendering happens, but not so often.

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Ooo, which PSU are you getting?

Anyway, just under $400 for an open box motherboard? To be honest, if an open box motherboard costs just under $400 (or even over $200 for that matter), then it's likely extreme overkill unless you want to do some very extreme overclocking using sub-zero cooling. I mean, aren't open-box items usually significantly cheaper than their full retail counterparts?

Regarding 2500K vs. 2600K: if all you're practically doing with it is overclocking and gaming, then the 2500K is the better choice. If you get a P8P67 board (any of them except for the "LE"), then you will be able to get a socket 1155 Ivy Bridge chip when they come out. So you won't need to get the 2600K just to "make sure", so to speak. If you are doing other things that can take advantage of Hyper Threading (which doesn't include gaming), then the 2600K might be worth it.
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Just the person I wanted to see. Super Tim to the rescue!
Oh come on. Besides, I use hax.


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I need PSU recommendations as well, but a lot of people have been saying _____ 750w.
Not sure what to do, two years ago I should've bought that brand new enermax 1050w for $80 I never knew it was such a killer deal,
A quality 650W would be enough, but I think it would have to have a +12V capacity of at least 50A (which is 624W) because that's what my PSU has and I was told that even I could have had two 470s in my Sandy Bridge rig (I had one 470 before). Unfortunately, the 700W ModXStream Pro's +12V capacity is only 552W (46A), so I think it would be cutting it close!

Guru3D.com was able to get their test system to pull 567W from the wall when it had two GTX 470s in SLI under full load (source), and so this means the system pulled about 480W from the PSU. However, they also recommend adding about 100-150W to account for the rest of the system which would bring the total to about 630W. Modern systems like ours pull most of their power from the +12V, especially CPUs and video cards - so this 630W figure reveals to me why I was told I could have had two 470s in my system. Although, I don't mind because I like my 580.

So even though their test system probably consumes more power than either of our systems could ever hope to, that 580W to 630W (100-150W of added power to account for the rest of the system) worries me.

So here are some 650W PSUs on Newegg right now that I know would be totally enough:


Here are some 750W units:

Of course, it just keeps getting more and more expensive after the HX750.


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now I'm patiently waiting for black friday/cyber monday - I hope you're around, I'd do anything for someone to point out what to splurge on.
Now I just hope that one of these PSUs has a significantly reduced price!


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BTW, I game but like to do videos - so rendering happens, but not so often.
Oh, then I guess that could justify buying the 2600K.
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+Rep for really giving me a good shot at getting this build going. I decided to keep my current rig, so I can have my brother play too. I would probably salvage the 470, HDD + 2x SSD + case for now (I have HAF 932 with no side panel + storm scout - using HAF 932 atm).

So how is spending $100 more on a CPU justified (well, I'll probably hope for a deal - so the hiatus might be lower than seen now) for rendering? What's the difference between the two, I'm intimidated by the price difference. Is it the same difference of a 955 and a 965?
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+Rep for really giving me a good shot at getting this build going. I decided to keep my current rig, so I can have my brother play too. I would probably salvage the 470, HDD + 2x SSD + case for now (I have HAF 932 with no side panel + storm scout - using HAF 932 atm).
You're very welcome! It makes me feel good when I make an attempt to help, so that's my motivation.


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So how is spending $100 more on a CPU justified (well, I'll probably hope for a deal - so the hiatus might be lower than seen now) for rendering? What's the difference between the two, I'm intimidated by the price difference. Is it the same difference of a 955 and a 965?
The only really noticeable difference is HyperThreading. I mean other than that, it has 8MB instead of 6 (not impressive), and a 100MHz higher clock speed (not impressive). So in my eyes, it's really just a 2500K with 2 more MBs of memory and HyperThreading. I'm not impressed by that, so I have the 2500K!
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I'm about to buy another 470 for $165 (it's in new condition, I believe) - so is this better than me selling my 470 for $165 and having $300 cash for a new card?

I know they are power hungry, but at this point - I don't know how Aion and BF3 are when it comes to SLI scaling, but I would hope to get an answer here (instead of making posts everywhere - but I guess it would be more efficient to do so).
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I honestly don't know.
No worries!

I'm buying the GTX 470, same type I have (hopefully). I think I need a new case, but most importantly a mobo for my future i5-2500k!

Honestly, I know you recommended me them - but I wonder if there are specific ones I should look for? I just want to have x16 SLI and I want it laid out nicely so my PSU can have more room between the card and itself.

It would be neat to have memory, mobo, and PSU to have the same scheme & I could look into learning how to re-sleeve the wires to make things more flush and classy!
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No worries!

I'm buying the GTX 470, same type I have (hopefully). I think I need a new case, but most importantly a mobo for my future i5-2500k!

Honestly, I know you recommended me them - but I wonder if there are specific ones I should look for? I just want to have x16 SLI and I want it laid out nicely so my PSU can have more room between the card and itself.

It would be neat to have memory, mobo, and PSU to have the same scheme & I could look into learning how to re-sleeve the wires to make things more flush and classy!
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