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Originally Posted by MeQuerSat;15277342 
Read my freaking post before complaining.

I read it. I'm not griping at you. The fact is BD costs more than intels stuff and uses a ton more power than them also. To render an extra 3 fps how is that even worth it?

Guess I'm just mad BD is looking to be such a flop. Was waiting and looking forward to some competition for the pieces to my next build but, from the looks of it, prices aren't going anywhere any time soon.

I apologize if I came across as rude.

But in all seriousness I'm kinda pissed that BD is looking so bad.
 
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Originally Posted by crashdummy35;15277484 
I read it. I'm not griping at you. The fact is BD costs more than intels stuff and uses a ton more power than them also. To render an extra 3 fps how is that even worth it?

Guess I'm just mad BD is looking to be such a flop. Was waiting and looking forward to some competition for the pieces to my next build but, from the looks of it, prices aren't going anywhere any time soon.

I apologize if I came across as rude.

But in all seriousness I'm kinda pissed that BD is looking so bad.

To be honest, me too.
I was waiting a long time for Bulldozer, hoping it would be a viable choice for x264 encoding (as that's what I mainly do).
Now it's here and it does perform good on encoding, I'm still not going to get it due to absurd power consumption.

As a bonus it also sucks on every other aspect, except some specific very multi-threaded stuff.
post #23 of 29
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Originally Posted by iamwardicus;15275791 
Still, just on the power draw side of it, I'd still want to choose the 2600k in that scenario. BD's power draw is just absurd IMO for what it's supposed to be.

Think of the real world Bulldozers.

Those things probably get something like 5gallons/ mile.

This absurd power draw makes sense.
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Weird...I'm not even a "hardcore" geek guys but this has me pretty PO'ed right now.

Intel could even raise prices on some the mid-to-high end stuff.... The power draw alone on those BD's is insane. I read where it kind of puts unused cores "to sleep" to save power but, come on, I have an AM3+ mobo sitting in a drawer right next to me. Sheesh. This thing is going back and I'm getting an i3 rig instead.
 
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I think the power consumption is crazy, but do you think AMD did that because more and more computers are coming with more wattages on the PSU? IDK. Just thinking out loud.
    
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I think the power consumption is crazy, but do you think AMD did that because more and more computers are coming with more wattages on the PSU? IDK. Just thinking out loud.

Last time I checked, electricity costs money.
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Last time I checked, electricity costs money.

Exactly.

How would you even cool that thing if it's oc'ed to it's max..? 125w as the base is already kinda high. Dozer would pull as much electricity as a small window unit air conditioner.

But the more I think about it, maybe AMD will give small-tiny price drops on the "high-end" stuff they have to lure in buyers and make up for what will surely be a lack of BD sales. To kinda keep the losses in check.
 
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Originally Posted by kz26;15278327 
Last time I checked, electricity costs money.

Electricity is usually pretty cheap, a hundred watts or two, under load, isn't going to cost much, even in the long run.

How you get that power to the CPU (motherboard VRMs) and how you remove it as the CPU transforms it all to heat, are much bigger concerns.

I think we will see a lot of borderline motherboards die in short order.
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