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i read somewhere that the bios and motherboard people weren't using weren't optimized enough. Does this mean that bulldozer still has a chance?
AFAIK, not enough to make a difference.
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Troll thread?
2500k all the way.
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i read somewhere that the bios and motherboard people weren't using weren't optimized enough. Does this mean that bulldozer still has a chance?
If you're not using higher than 1600MHz RAM and multi-threaded programs BD isn't for you. If you want to see why RAM speed makes a difference look at this.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...ssor-review/14

That's with 1866RAM IIRC. Most other reviews are with 1333 or 1600. Also note this is only in core loving programs. So if you aren't running something to take advantage of the CPU why would you get the CPU?
     
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Why is this thread still going on? Do you want this 2010 Corvette or this 1990 Pinto?
    
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Heh I was in the same position you were in, but I was considering the octo-core Bulldozer vs. an i5-2500K.. and I'm definitely choosing the i5-2500K. After the NDA lifted last night, all the legit benchmarks came out showing AMD lagging a bit behind in most benches, and consuming ~100 watts more than an i5-2500K under load.

I'm considering swinging by microcenter today to grab an LGA 1155 mATX mobo and the i5-2500K
Hopefully you see this but MC has $80 off a mobo when you buy the 2600K making 2600K + same mobo you were to purchase with 2500K only $20 more.

2600K + Asus P8Z68-M LX - $325 + Tax
2500K + same board -$305 + tax
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I thought all the reviews were about the FX8150, are there some doing reviews on the FX6100 and FX4100? Just curious if the game changes on the lower end parts, sort of like how the 2500K is a better buy than the 2600K for gaming.
The reason 2500K is "better" is because, for gaming, $100 for hyper threading is not worth it. Without that, the chips are almost the same, making the 2500K a better value. HT gives a SLIGHT disadvantage in some situations, but it can be turned off, but its marginal and nothing to complain about. It does better in select, heavily threaded games but overall the 2500K is a better value for gaming.

BD, on the other hand, has ONLY ONE DIE. 41XX, 61XX, 81XX are ALL THE SAME DIE with modules disabled and different clock speeds. The only thing that MIGHT make a 4100 better than a 6/8 core would be if it could reach higher clocks, but at that point you might as well go with a Phenom II which has higher IPC. And since you were already considering it, you might as well get a 2500K at that point.

There have been talks about people disabling "half" of a module, meaning that it only uses 1 integer core and the FPU. It will be interesting to see the results of that, but it would be hard to recommend getting an 8 core CPU only to neuter it, especially since the 2500K still exists.
    
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1090T/1100T is better in every way performance-wise, especially considering that it competes with the FX-8150.
 
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2500k. Forget the faildozer.
    
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Hopefully you see this but MC has $80 off a mobo when you buy the 2600K making 2600K + same mobo you were to purchase with 2500K only $20 more.

2600K + Asus P8Z68-M LX - $325 + Tax
2500K + same board -$305 + tax
thank you for the tips, but i'm already buying my 2500k from my microcenter.

i found this motherboard too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157271 is it better or worse than the one you recommended? if it's the same ill just get it from microcenter as it would be more convenient
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