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My Gaming Rig

Case: Thermaltake V5
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955
MOBO: Asus sabertooth 990fx
HDD: 3x Sata HDD "300GB" "150GB" "1TB"
COOLING: 5x Fans 4-120mm 1- 200mm (Hyper 212+)
GPU: Nvidia EVGA GTS 450
RAM: 2x2G OCZ @800MHz
PSU: Thermaltake light power 500W (DEAD)

OK im going to try to explain this to the best of my knowlage ok i was running my phenom quad 955 @4.0GHZ on my Asus m4n68-t mobo 210 fsb x19 multi vcore 1.416. all was swell untill i installed my new Asus Sabertooth 990fx, at stock all was fine so i adjusted my fsb and multi to hit 3.8GHz. wich was my highes stable OC on stock voltage on my m4n mobo.

now here is were things get screwy, i left the voltage allone and to my surprise while prime testing, my temps started to go past 55.c not a huge increase. but enough to make me notice anyhow i look at cpu-z and it sais my vcore is @1.46 :/. strange as it should be around 1.38 because i left my voltage @ stock, anyway to cut a long story short it blew my psu. my psu was a thermaltake light power 500w

my questions are symple

1. Did my OC cause this PSU fail?

2. Did the UEFI BIOS auto scale my volts?

3. What Size/Brand PSU would you recomend? ( Keep in mind i will be adding another gts450 for SLI )

4. Anyone else have this happen?
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Phenom II x4 955 Asus Sabertooth 990FX Evga gts450 2x2g ocz @800MHz 
PowerCase
Fried lol Thermaltake V5 
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post #2 of 10
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Originally Posted by xitalisk View Post
My Gaming Rig

Case: Thermaltake V5
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955
MOBO: Asus sabertooth 990fx
HDD: 3x Sata HDD "300GB" "150GB" "1TB"
COOLING: 5x Fans 4-120mm 1- 200mm (Hyper 212+)
GPU: Nvidia EVGA GTS 450
RAM: 2x2G OCZ @800MHz
PSU: Thermaltake light power 500W (DEAD)

OK im going to try to explain this to the best of my knowlage ok i was running my phenom quad 955 @4.0GHZ on my Asus m4n68-t mobo 210 fsb x19 multi vcore 1.416. all was swell untill i installed my new Asus Sabertooth 990fx, at stock all was fine so i adjusted my fsb and multi to hit 3.8GHz. wich was my highes stable OC on stock voltage on my m4n mobo.

now here is were things get screwy, i left the voltage allone and to my surprise while prime testing, my temps started to go past 55.c not a huge increase. but enough to make me notice anyhow i look at cpu-z and it sais my vcore is @1.46 :/. strange as it should be around 1.38 because i left my voltage @ stock, anyway to cut a long story short it blew my psu. my psu was a thermaltake light power 500w

my questions are symple

1. Did my OC cause this PSU fail?
I think it's very likely because overclocking with low quality units like that one has a history of killing PSUs. However, the death of a low quality PSU can also kill a part of a computer system (and sometimes the entire system).


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2. Did the UEFI BIOS auto scale my volts?
It depends on your setting in the BIOS: is/was it set to Auto?


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3. What Size/Brand PSU would you recomend? ( Keep in mind i will be adding another gts450 for SLI )
A quality 550W power supply would be perfect.

Can you order over the internet? If so, then from where?

How much can you spend on a power supply? I would recommend budgeting for at least $100 to $150 AUD if possible.


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4. Anyone else have this happen?
If you're talking about killing a low quality PSU from overclocking and other stressful things like that, then absolutely. Many have.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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post #3 of 10
not i..i always over-scale the psu..you could get by with a quality 550w psu..but i'd go a notch bigger..just to be safe/have upgrade-ready hardware..hope you didn't take out your mobo :: it's been done..by ME

http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...-supplies.html

OCN recommended PSUs ^
Edited by Schmuckley - 10/12/11 at 10:06am
 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon X5650 Asus P6X58D-E Sapphire HD 7950 G.Skill Trident-X 2600 CL10 
Hard DriveCoolingPowerCase
Samsung 840 pro Bong cooler / RASA waterblock Rosewill Capstone Gold 750 None 
MouseMouse PadAudio
cheap! Newegg box panel ibeats with onboard. 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 1075T w/2 cores locked @ 4.2+ M4a89GTD-Pro XFX Radeon HD 5870 8gb Samsung ddr3 1600 11-11-11-28@ 8-8-8-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility2 40gb WD Blue 500GB Lite-On RASA waterblock 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows & Linux Samsung 1080p 2 ms Dell Thermaltake TR2-800 
CaseMouse
Cooler Master Elite 330 (was) cheap 
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Thuban Powah!
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon X5650 Asus P6X58D-E Sapphire HD 7950 G.Skill Trident-X 2600 CL10 
Hard DriveCoolingPowerCase
Samsung 840 pro Bong cooler / RASA waterblock Rosewill Capstone Gold 750 None 
MouseMouse PadAudio
cheap! Newegg box panel ibeats with onboard. 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 1075T w/2 cores locked @ 4.2+ M4a89GTD-Pro XFX Radeon HD 5870 8gb Samsung ddr3 1600 11-11-11-28@ 8-8-8-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility2 40gb WD Blue 500GB Lite-On RASA waterblock 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows & Linux Samsung 1080p 2 ms Dell Thermaltake TR2-800 
CaseMouse
Cooler Master Elite 330 (was) cheap 
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post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post
not i..i always over-scale the psu..you could get by with a quality 550w psu..but i'd go a notch bigger..just to be safe/have upgrade-ready hardware..hope you didn't take out your mobo :: it's been done..by ME

http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...-supplies.html

OCN recommended PSUs ^
But he had a low-quality unit. It had enough power, but it just wasn't up to the challenge of handling the added stress of overclocking. That's usually when low quality PSUs die. It's like trying to ask the typical elderly person to do the things a person in their 20s can do (like extreme sports, let's say).
It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post
not i..i always over-scale the psu..you could get by with a quality 550w psu..but i'd go a notch bigger..just to be safe/have upgrade-ready hardware..hope you didn't take out your mobo :: it's been done..by ME

http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...-supplies.html

OCN recommended PSUs ^
that would have sucked hard im kinda glad it happend on the sabertooth its suposed to be military tested to withstand just that type of situation and has a 5 yr waranty

i was leaning towards a corsair 600w
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x4 955 Asus Sabertooth 990FX Evga gts450 2x2g ocz @800MHz 
PowerCase
Fried lol Thermaltake V5 
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My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x4 955 Asus Sabertooth 990FX Evga gts450 2x2g ocz @800MHz 
PowerCase
Fried lol Thermaltake V5 
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post #6 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by xitalisk View Post
that would have sucked hard im kinda glad it happend on the sabertooth its suposed to be military tested to withstand just that type of situation and has a 5 yr waranty

i was leaning towards a corsair 600w
Can you order over the internet? If so, then from where?

How much can you spend on a power supply?
It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
thanks for the advice im leaning towards the corsair gs600 as far as ordering online i use http://www.umart.com.au its like newegg but i have a local pick up point 30 mins down the road XD
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x4 955 Asus Sabertooth 990FX Evga gts450 2x2g ocz @800MHz 
PowerCase
Fried lol Thermaltake V5 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x4 955 Asus Sabertooth 990FX Evga gts450 2x2g ocz @800MHz 
PowerCase
Fried lol Thermaltake V5 
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post #8 of 10
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ive orderd a nother generic psu 650w for $39 i figure taking eficiancy into account and it being generic might as well get i high wattage to be safe, im going to be picking it up today as an inermediate as cash is tight atm.
curently it is being powerd by a psu that is so old it has rust lol, and the fact that the 4pin to the mobo is to short as i have a bottom mount case, so the case is on its back with the psu laying inside the dvd drive bay, with the power cable running through the space were my dvd drive should be. as a result i am also blowing hot air from the psu directly into the pull fan on my hyper 212+, allso i had to remove the front panel as it isnt flat on the edge and due to limited desk space i have my monitor on top of my case aswell.

so basicly i want to get the generic untill i can afford the corsair gs600 and im getting a 650w generic because im expecting poor efficiancy.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x4 955 Asus Sabertooth 990FX Evga gts450 2x2g ocz @800MHz 
PowerCase
Fried lol Thermaltake V5 
  hide details  
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My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x4 955 Asus Sabertooth 990FX Evga gts450 2x2g ocz @800MHz 
PowerCase
Fried lol Thermaltake V5 
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post #9 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by xitalisk View Post
ive orderd a nother generic psu 650w for $39 i figure taking eficiancy into account and it being generic might as well get i high wattage to be safe, im going to be picking it up today as an inermediate as cash is tight atm.
curently it is being powerd by a psu that is so old it has rust lol, and the fact that the 4pin to the mobo is to short as i have a bottom mount case, so the case is on its back with the psu laying inside the dvd drive bay, with the power cable running through the space were my dvd drive should be. as a result i am also blowing hot air from the psu directly into the pull fan on my hyper 212+, allso i had to remove the front panel as it isnt flat on the edge and due to limited desk space i have my monitor on top of my case aswell.

so basicly i want to get the generic untill i can afford the corsair gs600 and im getting a 650w generic because im expecting poor efficiancy.
Cancel the order and get a Hipro unit(the 480W one it's like 50$ and plenty for your rig), they look rough for they're not retail units but they're very solid and Hipro is a good OEM.

Also, the GS is not worth the money, Antec HCG 520 or Silverstone Strider Plus 600, both cheaper and both better than the GS600.
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by xitalisk View Post
thanks for the advice im leaning towards the corsair gs600 as far as ordering online i use http://www.umart.com.au its like newegg but i have a local pick up point 30 mins down the road XD
Which shopping location?
It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
  hide details  
Reply
It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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