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Ive gotten a M4 SSD to become my OS drive , I currently have 2 WD 500gb Cavier Blacks in raid 0.

2 Questoins.
1) Can I delete the OS off the WD raid array with out loosing my data?
2)Whats the easiest way to get the DATA I do want OFF the Raid array, b/c I was thinking of selling 1 or both of the Cavier Blacks and get a lower energy Cavier Green since it will be used for storage

i quess 3 questions what do you all think about my plans?
     
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Ive gotten a M4 SSD to become my OS drive , I currently have 2 WD 500gb Cavier Blacks in raid 0.

2 Questoins.
1) Can I delete the OS off the WD raid array with out loosing my data?
No, but the OS can stay there harmlessly just as long as you don't boot from the RAID drives.


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2)Whats the easiest way to get the DATA I do want OFF the Raid array, b/c I was thinking of selling 1 or both of the Cavier Blacks and get a lower energy Cavier Green since it will be used for storage

i quess 3 questions what do you all think about my plans?
I think it depends on what's on the array, but the first step is to disconnect the array and install the OS with only the M4 connected (optical drives are safe to have connected). The reason for this is to prevent having the boot sector get placed on a drive other than the M4.

After that, re-connect the array making sure it is not going to get booted from. It's safe to boot from it, but why run the risk of being confused?

I would also connect the new hard drive once you get it so that you can transfer everything from the array to the new hard drive from inside the new installation of the OS that is on the M4. Like before, I think the best method here could still depend on what is on the array and what you want to keep, but this is one way I would do it.

If you have things that could be kept via Windows Easy Transfer, then reboot into the BIOS and temporarily switch over to booting from the RAID array so that you can create an Easy Transfer File that you can use inside of the new installation of the OS. So the OS on the RAID array is the "old computer", and the OS on the M4 will be the "new computer".
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Thank you. very helpfull.
so just to make sure I inderstand what your saying. Get the Cavier Green HDD transfer the Info via a "cut and paste" method or changing the location from "c/" -> "d/" then when Im ready whipe the Cavier blacks and sell them or what ever else I would do with it?
     
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Thank you. very helpfull.
so just to make sure I inderstand what your saying. Get the Cavier Green HDD transfer the Info via a "cut and paste" method or changing the location from "c/" -> "d/" then when Im ready whipe the Cavier blacks and sell them or what ever else I would do with it?
You're welcome!

To summarize what I am recommending, I think I can say it better here by saying that I recommend buying the Caviar Green first. Then you can go ahead and disconnect the RAID array, install the OS on the M4, reconnect the RAID array afterward and also the Caviar Green at the same time.

Then transfer what you can with Cut and Paste if isn't too cumbersome for you. It isn't for me, but I also don't have much at all. If you think you may need Windows Easy Transfer, then reboot and make the motherboard boot from the RAID array so that you can create an Easy Transfer File (try to customize it too). Once you finish that, you'd reboot and make the motherboard boot back to the M4. Then once booted to the M4, you'd open up Windows Easy Transfer and call the M4 your "new computer".

If there are other things to transfer over that just can't be done this way, then I am confident others will be able to help.

However, if you are going to be selling the RAID drives to a person you don't know, then you need to know that formatting doesn't touch any of the data itself. Instead, it basically just replaces the Master File Table with a fresh (blank) one in the specified format. So a program that writes all 0s to the drive, or random 1s and 0s would be needed. I think one of the more popular ones is called "DBAN". Even cutting and pasting files over doesn't actually physically move the file. Instead, what it does is it removes the file from the Master File Table. So it's still a copy/paste, but it's more like a delete and paste (deleting data doesn't touch the data, but it just takes it out of the Master File Table).

If you are going to be selling them to a friend, then it may not be such a big deal.
Edited by TwoCables - 10/12/11 at 11:52am
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I would leave your PC as it is, buy the green drive now, plug it in still using your black raid 0 array as your OS drive, move all of the data over to your green, then remove the blacks and install windows.

You didn't say how large your SSD is, so I am going to assume 64GB. If this is the case, I would probably keep them and maybe make them a raid 1 (mirror) array. If you cannot install all of your games/apps to your SSD, the black is faster for the apps that you need to install onto it.
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it is indeed the 64gb. The black didnt have that much faster sequential read/write as the green and ive read elsewhere on the forum that haveing the black over the green is good if the black is to be the OS drive in my case its not going to be anymore.
     
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