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post #1 of 23
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How do you grip the mouse such that you know you're always gripping it in the same place/angle?

The problem: I can get my thumb in pretty much the same place every time, using the thumb buttons as a cue, but I find that a lot of the time my pinky/ring finger are a little too far forward or too far back, so whenever I try to hit something, my motion is at the wrong angle, and i have to readjust. It wouldn't be a problem, if I didn't notice it right when im switching from low speed movement to high speed movement.

(for example, I go to a paint program and make a bunch of horizontal swipes, then change color, close my eyes, and make the same swipes much faster or slower(or with my fingers extended a different amount, top vs bottom of screen), and find that they're all rotated by 10-20°.)

As for the details on how I currently grip my mouse:
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Mouse is the CM storm spawn.
Thumb finds the back of the back thumb button. Pinky is almost, but not quite at the very front of the rubber grip. Heel of my palm is the pivot.

Maybe I should just reduce my sensitivity and switch to a 'standard' claw grip.
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post #2 of 23
It's kinda irrelevant imo. I constantly adjust the mouse under my fingers all the time. I don't do it on purpose it just comes naturally. As long as you have absolute control over the cursor how the mouse is positioned is moot.
post #3 of 23
with my deathadder, my pinky and ring fingers are on the side of the mouse. they arent on the buttons. also, i have my sensitivity set so that i can go from the top left to the bottom right of my screen without moving anything but my fingers. (no wrist movement or arm movement, though for horizontal movement i move my wrist.) i find it is really easy to keep track of where my pointer is going when most of the movement is solely my fingers.

honestly, practice is what does it. and finding settings that work for you.

its also possible that that mouse is too small for you.
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post #4 of 23
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It's kinda irrelevant imo. I constantly adjust the mouse under my fingers all the time. I don't do it on purpose it just comes naturally. As long as you have absolute control over the cursor how the mouse is positioned is moot.

It does matter, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed the issue in the first place. Distance is consistent, but the direction of motion is not, so if I'm holding the mouse even slightly differently than how I've practiced, I miss by like 20 pixels over a mid sized motion, or even more if I'm trying to hit a building on my minimap(sc2).

If you want to see exactly HOW it's relevant, play the fast aiming x2 training here: http://aim400kg.ru/en/ (it's in the list on the left) until you get 5~10 double hits per game, then shift where your pinky/ringfinger grips the mouse by 1/4 inch forward or back and play it again. You'll still probably be able to hit the first target, but the reflex bounce to the second one will be way off. Let's be clear though, I'm not just trying to get a highscore in some flash training game, I'm trying to grind out the inconsistencies in my sc2 play, and this is a big one. It doesn't matter how awesome I can target or micro in a game if I can't repeat it the next day.

If you don't have my problem, great. If you're going tell me I've mis-identified what's causing the problem I have, even better. But if you're going to tell me my mouse cursor will behave the same if the mouse is rotated say 10° with respect to my hand, kindly refrain from posting.



@skoobs Practice helps, yes, but in order to train effectively, you need consistency, I've got my settings pretty much where I want them, but unless my grip is consistent between practice and play, it won't matter. I think what I need is a small lump of putty epoxy to give my pinky it's location.
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post #5 of 23
I'm using the RAT 7, so I have a nice little pinky rest, which is bent at such an angle that it gives me a good reference point whenever I use it. My thumb rests comfortably on a thumb button, which I can feel for to align myself. From there, the rest of my fingers end up in the right place. Try to find some noticeable reference points, like the sides of the button or something of the like.
post #6 of 23
When I grip my Spawn, my thumb sits right below and centered between the forward/backward buttons on the right side, where my thumb touches. My pinky and ring finger automatically end up in a natural, neutral position. The ring finger lays right alongside the upper ridge of the ring finger rest and the pinky is parallel to the right side rubber grip and touches it from the first joint almost all the way to the tip. It's very comfortable and natural for me that way, and I get the same grip every time. I don't arch my fingers into a true claw grip, my index and middle finger are more flat and relaxed on the main buttons, and I don't press my palm down onto the mouse, it's pretty much a fingers-only grip.
    
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post #7 of 23
If it doesn't feel right don't force it.
post #8 of 23
Have you tried any different mice? Its just for me there is only 1 way I hold it, I can't have it at a different angle in relation to my hand. If I try to the position of the two front buttons has changed and it doesn't feel right - can you not sense that? I have a RAT7 and attempted to make it best fit me.
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post #9 of 23
By the looks of it you are a bit uncomfortable with fingertip grip?

I think one should never worry about hand positioning; it should be natural and unconscious.

Try to think in this way: whenever you have that feeling that your aim is off, just try to rearrange your hands (you don't need to even look at it) until you feel your aim is fine and comfortable.

I don't know if that helps, but that's how I deal with my mouse (I'm fingertipper too).
post #10 of 23
I agree with Furuya, those pictures make it seem like you're somewhat uncomfortable with your grip style, like you're trying to emulate what you saw in a picture instead of doing what's comfortable for you. If you're looking for specifics, it seems like your hand is rolled too far off to the right, putting your wrist at an unnatural angle. Your ring finger also seems a bit too close to the top of the mouse, but that's a bit more subjective based on comfort.

If you're worried about it a lot or it's really bothering you, get a set of mouse grips (Xtrac makes a decent enough set) so you can mark where you hold the mouse.
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