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Poll Results: Shocked by Bulldozer reviews?

 
  • 16% (60)
    Yes - I thought BD would be amazing
  • 27% (101)
    No - I knew BD wasnt going to challenge Sandy Bridge
  • 56% (207)
    Im suprised it is outperformed by older AMD chips!
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post #21 of 130
Give BD time and let the software catch up. BTW, did that window's math kernel get fixed for the scheduler?
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post #22 of 130
I wasn't shocked by the performance, so many leaks lead us to where we got...

What I was shocked about, was the power draw. Nothing was really leaked that suggested we were looking a chip that is clock for clock around the same performance as the i5-2500k when all cores are used, but to do so it requires nearly twice the power.

I'm at a loss for words on this one, this chip is just an utter failure in every area, from per core, to multithreaded, price is way over what it's worth, and the power draw is ridiculous for the performance results.. Disappointment is the only feeling I'd like to convey.
    
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post #23 of 130
i feel that after..3 YEARS of research and development..AMD would bring something BETTER than the PREVIOUS offerings to the table..as this is not the case..it is a fail of unprecedented EPIC proportions..this is bad for everybody.. ..on a lighter note..i ordered an fx 4100 to play with .Still this is just sooo bad...i feel nauseaous
 
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post #24 of 130
I didn't expect miracles but from a completely new architecture that has been in the works for half a decade? Dame strait I expected more. And despite the fact that it can get over 8.0 GHz on LN2 it cant get over 5 on air? Then there is the 2 billion transistor count and a ridicules power need. The list just goes on and on. How did they manage to make it this bad.
    
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post #25 of 130
I'm not surprised.

But I think one thing many people don't realize is that BD and its architecture is not as important for current platforms, as much as it's important to try to guide how our future platforms should be. As long as we're shackled by x86 architecture, BD, and similar architectures, is meaningless. But a change in the hardware architecture is important to try to usher in a different way of software programming, a way that is so much more efficient than x86, and can yield significant gains in computing. That's the important part--not whether it benchmarks higher or lower than other competitors. Well, to an extent. A new hardware architecture is meaningless if no one buys into it. I guess we'll have to wait and see where it goes...
    
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post #26 of 130
I agree with Bit-tech, I think BD is, despite being delayed so much, ahead of its time. AMD gambled that heavily threaded apps would be predominant by now, but that hasn't happened. I'm not saying anyone should go out and buy BD, but I think its not necessarily a massive failure. Mostly its just a new, forward thinking design that was released before there was a market for it. Unless there are massive improvements in transistor technology, adding cores will still be the primary way to increase processing horsepower.

AMD should have kept BD on the back-burner and kept tweaking and optimizing their current, proven CPU architecture.
     
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post #27 of 130
Voted 3. You know it's bad when your new tech gets beaten by the "old" stuff. Didn't think it would see off Intel BUT i did expect it to be a solid increase over the PhII's. Really don't know what they were doing with this.

Did no one when they were testing the first chips back from Global think "hey lets make sure that these BD's well you know lets make sure they show a marked improvement over these old Phenom II's because well it would be.... You know "silly" if they didn't....... Wouldn't it" even the quad PhII's beat it in some tests!!.

BD for me gets to join the NetBurst arch and NV30 on my list of "now who REALLY thought this was a good idea S List". So yes i am shocked by the results more so that they dare market it with the FX monikor (to make it appeal to the 'clockers whilst it drags the FX name through the mud!).

In a review (sorry can't remember where!) it took massive amounts of extra mhz to beat the 2X00K (by a small margin!) in one test (excess of 600+mhz!!) and the darn thing was sucking down more juice than Quad SLI.

To sum up:

1. To slow.
2. Poor choice using the FX name.
3. Power hungry.
4. Beaten by your old architecture.

Sorry AMD no sale this time.

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post #28 of 130
the way i see it for the price of a 4 core intel you can get a 8 core AMD.
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post #29 of 130
true but when it takes 8 Cores to catch up to Intel's 4 it's time to worry!!.

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post #30 of 130
nop I was not shocked, I'm more shock how people are idiots for thinking that a 2 months old motherboard with out a bios update for a brand new cpu will work at 100%.

p.s I'm no amd fan boy just some one with a little common sense
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