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I built a new water cooled system a couple of weeks ago. Fully tested for leaks for 24 hours, all was well.

Was checking again after 10 days and no leaks but noticed some fluid backflow around the inside of tube of the top pump clamp. I've attached two pictures, one taken at DOB and another picture taken tonight.

Clearly there has been some backflow although the clamp seems to be doing it's job, but should I be concerned?

    
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I would want to do something about it. What size tubing are you using?

Edit: R3603 3/8" x 1/2", I see. I love that stuff. However, it looks like it's not quite tight enough on the pump's barbs. Have you considered buying an aftermarket top so you can use bigger fittings? Another option might be to see if you can put a zip tie closer to the end of the barb to seal it at that point.
Edited by t-ramp - 10/12/11 at 1:44pm
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I would want to do something about it. What size tubing are you using?

Edit: R3603 3/8" x 1/2", I see. I love that stuff. However, it looks like it's not quite tight enough on the pump's barbs. Have you considered buying an aftermarket top so you can use bigger fittings? Another option might be to see if you can put a zip tie closer to the end of the barb to seal it at that point.
Yes it is Tygon R3603 3/8" 1/2". The tubing grips the barb really tight, when I put it on there was no way it would pull off even before I clamped it. I'm guessing the the liquid when it heats up makes the tubing more malleable.

I'm really surprised though as I can't fathom how fluid has got slightly past the clamp and I suppose logically it will continue to creep, so I'm going to have to keep any eye on it the coming days.

I don't really want to tear down the system so the cable tie seems a good option. Looking at the picture where do you mean, just to the right of the clamp?
Edited by EasterEEL - 10/12/11 at 1:58pm
    
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If it where me, And i spotted it, I'd definitely pull my loop apart, Also I'd recommend an aftermarket top for your pump as t-ramp suggested!
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I see it passed the barb but I dont see that it passed the clamp... I would fix it but really what would you do to prevent it from happening again?

I use 7/16" tubing on 1/2" barbs, just because I never want that to happen
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I use 7/16" tubing on 1/2" barbs, just because I never want that to happen
This ^. I do the same. Don't even have to have clamps. LOL. I use them "just in case".

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I see it passed the barb but I dont see that it passed the clamp... I would fix it but really what would you do to prevent it from happening again?

I use 7/16" tubing on 1/2" barbs, just because I never want that to happen
Yes this my thoughts, re-running a new bit of the same size tube to the barb doesn't really change anything. I'm assuming the outflow from the pump has just enough pressure for a few drops of fluid to backflow as far as the clamp. Shows the importance of clamps with same size barbs and ID tubing!

I calculate the system must have moved 20,000 litres since DOB, so hopefully it has stabilized. Would moving the clamp a little closer to the barb shoulder tighten the tubing?

If things deteriorate I may change to 7"/16" tubing 1/2" barbs and change tubing as I have read that R3603 has plasticizer which may cause problems further down the road.
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If it where me, And i spotted it, I'd definitely pull my loop apart, Also I'd recommend an aftermarket top for your pump as t-ramp suggested!
The problem is the standard pump top works really well with my configuration i.e. placement of barbs means both tubes come out sideways as in picture.

All of the aftermarket tops seem to require one of the barbs coming out of the top so the two tubes at right angles to each other and I'm not sure I have enough room for that.
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I never used it myself but I seen alot of people use it they never reported anything bad about it
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