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Originally Posted by 1337LutZ View Post
If you read tomshardware, you did read about that Windows 7 doesnt support the Floating point units well, yet. Windows 8 should support them better, and expect a big improvement.
I don't think Windows should have to tailor to specific processors to make them not suck. If Bulldozer needs Windows 7 to support something, AMD should have been working with Microsoft to get whatever support they needed into Windows 7 before the processors launched. Otherwise what's the point of launching the CPU if we aren't going to get good performance out of it until Windows 8 comes out in a few years?
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post #12 of 29
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I just read the Tom's Hardware review and I can't believe how fail Bulldozer is. I was pretty sure it wouldn't compete with Sandy Bridge, but losing to Phenom II's in multiple performance tests? What a joke.

I think it's hilarious that my Phenom II x4 925 (3.5GHZ overclock) which is currently going for around $100 dollars can probably beat the FX-8150 in some benchmarks.

I really have no incentive to upgrade my CPU now until Ivy Bridge. I thought Bulldozer would be tempting but it is complete garbage!
And the ignorant continue to cry foul. sigh.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...ssor-review/14

You're so right that BD is a complete failure.

I'm sorry that you didn't read AMD's discussion about how the architecture might not be very useful for the general consumer.

I swear people really don't grasp/read things.

BD sucks because of power draw and not so great single threaded performance. At least get the bad reasons about a CPU straight.

EDIT: With the right parts (gasp I know) these results were made. RAM 1866 > than Toms RAM 1333. Read about the hardware being used in the tests.
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post #13 of 29
just like in my other threads i think.

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post #14 of 29
The Bulldozer architecture was made for servers and AMD didn't give a (insert word) about the consumer market. In a server, more cores = better. For a consumer, more IPC = better. For anything except a FEW software (mainly professional/server ones) Bulldozer is a useless architecture and right now, AMD gave up on the enthusiast market and decided that they might be able to win the mainstream market with Fusion. Sad? Yes. True? Even more.
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post #15 of 29
I really hope Bulldozer follows a similar route as Rage did.
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post #16 of 29
Bulldozer does seem to be getting higher overclocks... maybe that counts for something.
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post #17 of 29
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Bulldozer does seem to be getting higher overclocks... maybe that counts for something.
Not really because of that price your either better off with a 2500k or 2600k when price drops when 2700k comes out. and with x4 one your better off with a phenom II x4 or an i3
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post #18 of 29
really what happened to bulldozer all 8 cores at once loosing to 8 threads well yet another fail for amd one of these days/years we might see amd step up to intel nothing has stopping the tic and tock releases intel has promised and when the next amd socket drops probably after ivy bridge probably after windows 8 will it live up to the hype? I cant figure out how they had a full year to come up with something to at least hang with second gen i7's and what they gave us was as good as phenom. i feel for my amd buddies taking one for the team maybe next time right.
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post #19 of 29
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Bulldozer does seem to be getting higher overclocks... maybe that counts for something.
Yeah.. it counts for something. ..About 200 more watts power consumption for a modest overclock. ......On a CPU that already uses more than a power hungry Thuban at stock. I didn't think anything could out do Thuban in power usage.

They've got a real winner!
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post #20 of 29
so in theory i should be able to sell my 965 for more than the bulldozer.
I can see it now.

AMD 965BE!!
More Powerful CPU than BULLDOZER!!!
WILL SELL FAST!


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