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So um Bulldozer is not a bad product I guess, but it seems to be slightly slower than the existing Phenom II architecture for games.

I would rather have seen a higher clocked 6 core Phenom II made with a 32nm process with an integrated 69XX series GPU at a much cheaper price than a comparable intel chip paired with a similar video card.


Who cares about temps, just as long as you can cool with a monster heatsink and high CFM fans? I wouldn't have minded a 250W TDP as long as they made a heatsink big enough to accommodate it.

They used up so much manpower and capital with a complete architecture redesign with not much to show for it. It looks like they could have used that to build a better budget gaming chip. Just my $0.02. And yes I am an AMD fanboy.
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They didn't waste that much money on it obviously. They took the money that should have gone to R&D and give it out as executive bonuses.

They hired their CEO August of this year. That's how bad their company is.
    
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just invest into intel stock instead
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I would rather have seen a higher clocked 6 core Phenom II made with a 32nm process with an integrated 69XX series GPU at a much cheaper price than a comparable intel chip paired with a similar video card.
Yeah, I'd rather win the lottery than have to work next week, too.

You're new here so I shouldn't be so mean, but to think they could have shrunk a Thuban AND added an "integrated" 6970 is beyond laughable.
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An architectural redesign was needed, and even if BD isn't quite ready for prime-time, it's a necessary step.

Phenom II was a dead end, and it's successor not surpassing it in it's first incarnation doesn't lessen that reality.
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While it seems like it didn't pay off immediately, it was probably in their best interest to bite the bullet and do a redesign while they can afford it. There's nothing to suggest that Bulldozer can't be improved drastically in the future. For all we know, AMD could be setting themselves up for a big change.
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Originally Posted by Project_2501 View Post
So um Bulldozer is not a bad product I guess, but it seems to be slightly slower than the existing Phenom II architecture for games.

I would rather have seen a higher clocked 6 core Phenom II made with a 32nm process with an integrated 69XX series GPU at a much cheaper price than a comparable intel chip paired with a similar video card.


Who cares about temps, just as long as you can cool with a monster heatsink and high CFM fans? I wouldn't have minded a 250W TDP as long as they made a heatsink big enough to accommodate it.

They used up so much manpower and capital with a complete architecture redesign with not much to show for it. It looks like they could have used that to build a better budget gaming chip. Just my $0.02. And yes I am an AMD fanboy.
Why should anyone risk on a new design for anything? They screwed up in their marketing because this chip so far doesn't seem useful (though they warned us about this) for the general user. If you have higher speed RAM and use programs that are threaded well and aren't compiler biased towards Intel (jk on compiler bias) then BD only sucks because of power consumption.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...ssor-review/14
     
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just invest into intel stock instead
Yeah, I see intel stock rising after this fiasco...
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They had to change to a new architecture because they have been on the same architecture for too long. If you are an AMD optimist, this will improve their later CPUs once they can refine it.
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Yeah, I see intel stock rising after this fiasco...
i havent checked but i heard the 2600k went up in price.
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