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HARX700 + Xonar DG vs AD700

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Which is better? I got a Xonar DG for $10 AR, and I'm thinking of getting 35 rep so I can sell some stuff on here to get enough cash for a HARX700.

Alternatively, I could sell the DG and try to get the AD700s.

tl;dr How do HARX700s + a Xonar DG compare to the AD700s?

Also, does an iPod Touch (1st gen, if it matters) drive the HARX700s? I don't know any audiophile stuff, but I heard pricier headphones have higher impedance which means less MP3-player-friendly?

EDIT: I like bass. But I have a "Logicrap" Z523 2.1 for that, I guess.
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Both will be fine on an MP3 player. The AD700s are certainly better phones, and since your onboard is decent they would be better even without a DG. That said, they're known for their crisp sound and large soundstage, not their bass. The RX700s will provide more bass and sound isolation.
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What do you mean by my onboard is decent?

Are Realtek in the upper spectrum of onboard sound chips?

Also, I remember reading about OCNers with crappy onboard sound that would be too quiet for generic speakers and such - my onboard sound makes my Z523s pretty loud when Windows 7 sound is set to 20%, is this irregular?
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Realtek is the brand, your motherboard specifically has the relatively recent ALC 892 chip, which is quite good. It's not as good as a dedicated sound card, but it's still very nice. Nice enough to allow the AD700s to still outshine the RX700s in most areas. I generally recommend a Xonar DG to most people anyways, but if you can't get one I'd still definitely go with the AD700s. The only question is really are you willing to sacrifice bass? Because again, AD700s lack bass.
post #5 of 8
You can also do the foam mod for the rx700s which is supposed to give it better sound stage.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/435809/jvc-ha-rx700-mods
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Originally Posted by yesitsmario;15288973 
You can also do the foam mod for the rx700s which is supposed to give it better sound stage.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/435809/jvc-ha-rx700-mods


Definitely increases the sound stage.

I chose the RX700s based on price and so many recommendations. I wanted to get away from headsets and I'm glad I did. The RX700's with the sound card will sound even better.

You may want to consider getting the AD700's though if your budget allows and pick up the DG down the road. Also the DG does have a headphone amp but I don't think either really need the amping they're both relatively low impedance headphones. Though you might want to look at the Xonar DX if money allows it has a better sound processor but no headphone amp.
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post #7 of 8
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Sorry for my inexperience, but what exactly is sound stage? Does more sound stage = more directional sound?

Also, do the HARX700s sit on my ears or do they cover them (don't know the technical terms)?
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Sound stage is your ability to hear instruments as if an orchestra were performing on stage. You would be able to hear where the percussion section was, where the strings were etc..

That said, it's important for gaming to have a large sound stage to help you pinpoint footsteps, gun reloads, etc..

RX700s and AD700s are both over the ear. They engulf your ears.

You should go with the AD700s if your primary use for them is gaming or classical music.

If you want to listen to music with them and the music you listen to has a good amount of bass in them, I would just be happy with a pair of modified RX700s.
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