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no, lol, Apple doesn't price their products according to supply/demand
ahaha... what?
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Maybe if we are lucky, apple will get banned from the U.S.


That was asinine. Seriously, Apple is playing the game. If there's anyone that should be blamed it's the patent system and how it works. Samsung would sue Apple if it were the other way around. If Apple invented and patented a technology, then, by all means, it is theirs. If Samsung creates something and patents a technology, then, by all means, it is theirs.

Companies protect their intellectual property. That's part of the business game. Don't like it? Then change the patent system, until you do, every company will keep suing each other. Simple as that.
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That was asinine. Seriously, Apple is playing the game. If there's anyone that should be blamed it's the patent system and how it works. Samsung would sue Apple if it were the other way around. If Apple invented and patented a technology, then, by all means, it is theirs. If Samsung creates something and patents a technology, then, by all means, it is theirs.

Companies protect their intellectual property. That's part of the business game. Don't like it? Then change the patent system, until you do, every company will keep suing each other. Simple as that.
well if they can ban the tab in australia maybe they can get the 4s banned too (provided samsung/google have the correct patents). it has to go both ways. that would hurt apple more than it would it would hurt samsung considering the pre-orders on the 4s. the courts here may be harsh but i can only hope its balanced.
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post #34 of 58
Why can't Apple just compete ?

They are good at it anyway, so why do it like this...

I have zero respect left for Apple, since the onslaught of patent wars they caused.
One of these days they'll get bit in the ass, very hard and they'll live to regret it. Mark my words.
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That was asinine. Seriously, Apple is playing the game. If there's anyone that should be blamed it's the patent system and how it works. Samsung would sue Apple if it were the other way around. If Apple invented and patented a technology, then, by all means, it is theirs. If Samsung creates something and patents a technology, then, by all means, it is theirs.

Companies protect their intellectual property. That's part of the business game. Don't like it? Then change the patent system, until you do, every company will keep suing each other. Simple as that.
I mostly agree. The amount of regulation that covers patents is not as robust as it should be. Patents are also not reviewed as thoroughly as they should be. Why is it that companies that specifically search through patent databases to distinguish claims that are of similar scope are that much more thorough than patent offices? The situation is no better with employees at those offices being incentivized to approve patents.

However, I think the main issue is not necessarily only design patents, but software patents. Their introduction has led to an immense catalog of millions, and thousands upon thousands of them describe very conceptually identical features. The most reform needs to be in that particular area, such that ideas that are simply not that novel, including pinch-to-zoom, scrolling galleries, etc. cannot be licensed. Companies should never have been granted rights to any of those features, given that they are not so completely innovative, and it has nothing to do with the interface's underlying code. I'm sure that most developers would agree that it makes no sense to be patenting a technology based on basic descriptions, rather than the actual code.
Edited by Ikrin - 10/13/11 at 1:21am
post #36 of 58
A lot of the crap Apple has tried to patent is on the premise of "Shape" and "Gestures"

You CAN'T patent NATURE.

Naturally what would you do to zoom out? bring your two fingers together. I mean really you see it on SciFi movies years before the iPhenomena came to fruition! Now if they copied the code on how to recognize gestures they might be on to something... but their patents are SO VAGUE that it can cover anything... It is the fault of the patent system, but It's Apple exploiting it. I've lost so much respect for Apple because they sell their notebooks with lower system specs at twice the cost, and are the most sue happiest corporation I've seen.
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Stifling creativity, especially when it's solely on the basis of physical likeness, is never a good thing for anybody.
No, it isnt its making other company's come up with different designs far from stifling creativity
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how about they come up with another design that isn't so generic and then claim that as their own?

It's a freaking rectangle, hardly an innovative design.
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All I know is, for Apple to steal most of the major enhancements to iOS5 from Android - things like the notification system - and then with a straight face attempt to sue Samsung for rudimentary $hit like SLIDE TO UNLOCK and making their devices in a rectangular shape - well friends, THATS BALLS.

Regardless of whose side your on or your personal opinion on the matter, the fact is Apple shot first and unfortunately they'll continue to look like the bully going forward, no matter how crazy Samsung and anyone else chooses to make their countersuits. Apple's revival in the last decade+ was really mostly about PR magic more so than truly innovative products, and this is slowly festering into a PR nightmare, a position they probably never imagined themselves in.

And its uncanny, eerie even, that things at the big A begin to implode the moment Steve is gone.
Edited by odditory - 10/13/11 at 3:39am
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