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If I was Apple then I would make something better instead of trying to block other products.
    
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Originally Posted by r3skyline View Post
Funny considering the apple iPad 2 is the best tablet for sale.

I played around with the galaxy tab and honestly. Apple wasn't going to lose any sales to it. It's terrible.
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Did I say, anywhere in my statement, that I agreed with what apple did? No. Rather, if you look at what I wrote, I stated they wasted their time going about it. Should've just left samsung be. IMO, apple wouldn't have lost any sales to sammys tab.
I think you're missing the point. You originally quoted someone that stated that this is hurting consumers, given that it limits their options, with a side note that was slightly disparaging towards Apple. You mentioned nothing about agreeing or disagreeing with their tactics, and neither did I state anything related to that in my response to your post. I was simply referring to the post you quoted. However, you tailored your response to ignore the situation by simply stating that Apple's product was superior anyway, which is not agreeable at all, despite what you or anyone may believe.

I don't know how you're assessing the validity of your statement, but I see no real merit in insulting another product and upholding the supremacy of another to prove your understanding and disdain of an egregious circumstance.
post #53 of 58
So the fact that sales say otherwise, you still believe that any other tablet on the market is better? So it's pretty much be ause the iPad is an apple product that it has so many sales? And it has nothin to do with quality, functionality, and how iOS is very smooth?
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So the fact that sales say otherwise, you still believe that any other tablet on the market is better? So it's pretty much be ause the iPad is an apple product that it has so many sales? And it has nothin to do with quality, functionality, and how iOS is very smooth?
No, it does not have to do with sales. Sales is not an indication of a product's superiority in terms of performance or functionality. Certainly, it is not the case that the products with the most sales is always the better product. I made no mention of company affiliation playing into sales, but if you're going to simply attempt to discount that branding is irrelevant to sales, then you need to do some more research on marketing. I am not here to argue whether or not iOS or Android, or any other OS is better. They each have their advantages and disadvantages, but that has nothing to do with the tactics being employed by a company to deter innovation and monopolize a market.

Simply put, it has nothing, I repeat, nothing to do with whether or not an OS or a device's hardware is better. That is simply not germane to this case. It is about how unproductive patent trolling is, and the interests of consumers being ignored.
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well if they can ban the tab in australia maybe they can get the 4s banned too (provided samsung/google have the correct patents). it has to go both ways. that would hurt apple more than it would it would hurt samsung considering the pre-orders on the 4s. the courts here may be harsh but i can only hope its balanced.
Maybe they can't? It is quite possible that Apple has paid licensing fees for any other companies' patents, which means they hold a license for the technology. Samsung, on the other hand, refused to pay for licensing when Steve Jobs personally contacted them to work out a solution.

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I mostly agree. The amount of regulation that covers patents is not as robust as it should be. Patents are also not reviewed as thoroughly as they should be. Why is it that companies that specifically search through patent databases to distinguish claims that are of similar scope are that much more thorough than patent offices? The situation is no better with employees at those offices being incentivized to approve patents.

However, I think the main issue is not necessarily only design patents, but software patents. Their introduction has led to an immense catalog of millions, and thousands upon thousands of them describe very conceptually identical features. The most reform needs to be in that particular area, such that ideas that are simply not that novel, including pinch-to-zoom, scrolling galleries, etc. cannot be licensed. Companies should never have been granted rights to any of those features, given that they are not so completely innovative, and it has nothing to do with the interface's underlying code. I'm sure that most developers would agree that it makes no sense to be patenting a technology based on basic descriptions, rather than the actual code.
Oh, I don't disagree with you on the "basic descriptions" part. Unfortunately, one can blather their way through half of a patent application and be granted a patent that's very generic.

I'm not saying Apple is right or wrong here, I'm just saying that hating Apple for suing Samsung is pretty pointless, because as long as patents are granted for such things, it's going to happen and many companies will sue whoever they can to ensure that their IP is protected.
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I can agree with your main point. Which is referring to the tactics of apples patent crap.
post #57 of 58
I think the bottom line is very very simple in this case...

The pure fact that you can patent the idea of sliding your finger down a screen to "unlock" a device, is the most moronic principal ever.

Period.
post #58 of 58
Google/moto, samsung, and HTC are going to come back, and try ban the new iPhone.

Then this will spin into a "How to we resolves this BS" meeting. Of which will come licensing agreements back and forth.

Just remember, agruments that become this public usually have a lot of back story that lead up to them. We will never know what conversations went on, behind cloed doors, prior to this slu of lawsuits.
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