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Originally Posted by Fatalrip View Post
Overclocking is just gonna make the power consumption worse... I could never justify owning one with the power consumption the way it is.
Imagine the power bill with an 8150 oc'ed to it's absolute max, under water, with some heavy-lifting gpu's oc'ed to their absolute max...
 
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Hardocp's test on power consumption.....
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post #43 of 98
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i get paid this weekend MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT pick up an 8150 if in stock and a waterchiller
I suggest you wait and see if the crappy power draw and temperature is in fact a L1 cache bug with microsoft. If that doesn't change, I suggest you wait for Q1 2012's Gen II BD's.
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Imagine the power bill with an 8150 oc'ed to it's absolute max, under water, with some heavy-lifting gpu's oc'ed to their absolute max...
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post #45 of 98
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See the problem with your comparison though is that BD is nowhere even close to a 2600k in anything 90% of users would do. It barely climbs up to a 2500k for everyday processes when overclocked to very high frequencies and has a $35 premium to boot. If your life consists of compressing data or compiling videos then sure, it's fine. But for the large majority of the PC world?

I'm unsure of what demographic they're aiming for. Offices will discount it because of power, the enthusiast market will discount it because of the low performance, budget builders will buy the P2 family. I'm just so confused as to what AMD was trying to do. In all their marketing pre-release they were comparing it to a 990x. That's high-end enthusiast territory.

Several of my friends were waiting on this. I really hope a rabbit is pulled from a hat with hotfixes or bios updates.
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post #46 of 98
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The 8150's have already sold out on the egg.

It's going to be interesting, that's for sure. I'm hoping BD comes through, in the end, SOME HOW...the market will need it to.
 
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post #47 of 98
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You talk as if AMD has no knowledge of what is going on. What do you think AMD engineers have been doing lately? During they delay of its launch? Sitting around on their butts playing pin the VRM on the motherboard? There is a chance there will be some more tweaks here and there...but that is all. Tweaks. To even think there will massive boosts to performance in the future is rather insulting to AMD.

However you are correct. If all you are doing is gaming with a single GPU at 1080p then Bulldozer will be fine...most of it will not be utilized for quite some time( and when it can it will be so obsolete that it won't matter) and you will have a noticably higher electric bill but it will do fine.

Though so will any CPU that is a quad or better (though I think the X3s do OK as well). It is when you get into multiple GPU setups where you actually start to need the perforamce of Intel. From the sounds of it there was a decent amount of people wanting that from the FX8150 and it is looking like they won't get it.

You should also remember that PCs are used for things other than gaming.
Trying to look at it thought the eye's of AMD's engineers it seems quite simple. This time around they where in a catch 22. damned if they do, damned if they don't. People would have raged just as hard if they would have delayed this. I also do not think that they where playing pin the VRAM on the mobo. When it comes to engineering somthing from the ground up it take's lots of time, money, and energy from EVERY one involved. I dont know the answer for this but how long was SB in R n D? how much was spent? what did intel have to overcome to get it to be the raging hoss that it is today? I wasn't paying attention to the SB chip's when they came out, but I'll bet there where a kink or two when it was released, how many BIOS update's have been released to fine tune its performance?
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See the problem with your comparison though is that BD is nowhere even close to a 2600k in anything 90% of users would do. It barely climbs up to a 2500k for everyday processes when overclocked to very high frequencies and has a $35 premium to boot. If your life consists of compressing data or compiling videos then sure, it's fine. But for the large majority of the PC world?

I'm unsure of what demographic they're aiming for. Offices will discount it because of power, the enthusiast market will discount it because of the low performance, budget builders will buy the P2 family. I'm just so confused as to what AMD was trying to do. In all their marketing pre-release they were comparing it to a 990x. That's high-end enthusiast territory.

Several of my friends were waiting on this. I really hope a rabbit is pulled from a hat with hotfixes or bios updates.
Rabbit pulled from a hat. Now that would be something. I hoping for it.
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The 8150's have already sold out on the egg.

It's going to be interesting, that's for sure. I'm hoping BD comes through, in the end, SOME HOW...the market will need it to.
Hopefully the 8170 should be more of what we were all expecting, it should come out in a couple of months
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Bulldozer reminds me of Pentium 4, P4 was hot running and gobbled up power. Athlon had a much better architecture and a 2ghz athlon was equivelent to a 3ghz P4. Sound familiar anyone.
I was thinking the same thing. Could be the start of something huge for AMD
    
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