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How disappointing..a phenom I?
    
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Keep in mind that the AM3 Phenom IIs are faster than the AM2 phenom IIs, clock for clock, due primarily to an advantage in uncore/CPU NB clock.

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I would bet the numbers would be closer in this chart if they restricted it to just one core or one core per module.
No, because a quad core Bulldozer has only two modules and nearly all of those tests are multi-threaded.
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Actually 2500/2600 prices haven't changed so you're the dumb one here...? And SB performance was always great.

And no, Intel quads are still faster than AMD 8 cores no matter how much you want to deny it.
Disable HT and try it again. No matter how superior you feel with Intel, it's HT is what sets it apart because HT can run more threads than AMD single core. That doesn't make Intel better it only proves that Software is not where it SHOULD be. Most games cannot run more than 2 or 3 cores at most.

Intel is better than AMD in graphic rendering this is known and a given. But the drivers are not there yet to support the new CPU. Give AMD a bit and I bet the numbers do a complete 180 in comparisons between BD and anything else currently in production.

The whole point that you're missing is that it's a BRAND NEW component. Of course it's gonna have some issues. Nobody has anything worked out for it yet. Hur Dur.

Oh and by the way, did you see me name call? You can take your snide remark and blow it out your ass. Have a nice day.

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I remember all the BD threads in the week before its launch with all those leaked benchmarks that everybody called fake. Turns out they ware true.
Seriously, what the hell ware they thinking? If I was CEO of AMD I'd be sitting in a dark room with a glass of liquor on BDs launch day.
I hope they stop trippin and make a good CPU next time because I'm kinda sick of intel dominating like this...
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Quote:
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Keep in mind that the AM3 Phenom IIs are faster than the AM2 phenom IIs, clock for clock, due primarily to an advantage in uncore/CPU NB clock.



No, because a quad core Bulldozer has only two modules and nearly all of those tests are multi-threaded.
Don't read or quote anything else I said. Good job.

There is no apples to apples comparison of IPC when you take into account everything - instead of just taking into account what marketing wants you to believe.

What if your program is only using one thread? One thread is going to stress one core in a module. IPC will appear higher than if we have an application stressing two threads and those two threads are in two cores in the same module. How did you not see what I was saying? There is no one size fits all apples to apples comparison we can make.
Edited by cusideabelincoln - 10/14/11 at 5:22pm
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