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Maybe current games simply don't take advantage of Bulldozer's eight cores?

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Not trying to defend Bulldozer here, but I think this is a valid point that needs to be further discussed, rather than just saying, Bulldozer sucks...I want my 2500k Booyyyyyyyyyeee!....

Let's pause and take a step back, and remember those cool little lunchables that made good snacks when we were kids? Sorry, random thought. But...

Perhaps if there was a game made that took full advantage of all eight cores, it would leave the 2600k and 2500k in the dust?

Normally I don't like to speculate with what ifs...but I think this is a valid point considering that Bulldozer is a whole new architecture, and it was just released at that.

    
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There are plenty of apps, of all sorts, that do take advantage of 8 cores, or more, and Bulldozer is generally (with a few exceptions) failing to match the 2600k in those.

Why would gaming be magically different?
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Nope, bulldozer is just plain crap
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Originally Posted by BigCactus View Post
Not trying to defend Bulldozer here, but I think this is a valid point that needs to be further discussed, rather than just saying, Bulldozer sucks...I want my 2500k Booyyyyyyyyyeee!....

Let's pause and take a step back, and remember those cool little lunchables that made good snacks when we were kids? Sorry, random thought. But...

Perhaps if there was a game made that took full advantage of all eight cores, it would leave the 2600k and 2500k in the dust?

Normally I don't like to speculate with what ifs...but I think this is a valid point considering that Bulldozer is a whole new architecture, and it was just released at that.

While I agree BD's performance would most certainly increase if games and other applications were more optimized and multi-threaded for multi-core CPU's, I still think the fault of the chip lies with AMD's inferior ISA compared to intel. Their cards tend to have a higher CPI (cycle per instruction) and aren't as efficient per instruction as intel. I'm not an intel fan boy persay, but at this time they simply have a superior ISA, no one can argue that.

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The thing is, games taking advantage of eight cores/threads/modules/whatever are not going to be mainstream enough any time soon, so by time that happens, Bulldozer will be old news anyway.

You do have a good point, and as I said elsewhere, this CPU could somewhat be considered "ahead of it's time" in that way, but not in an all out good way.

As mentioned above, even if everything was like that, it still would maybe come close to competing at best, but not in all situations, and with much higher power draw.

Intel has been going forwards with IPC slowly while adding cores slowly. I think this is the right approach. They remain higher priced, but perform better.

On the other hand, AMD's IPC was already around par/behind Intel's Core 2 from 2006... Now, they seemingly go back even further, and add threads few people need. That, combined with high power draw, is why this chip is getting the reputation that it is.
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BD is not too good with highly multi-threaded apps to begin with.
Most games don't make heavy use of 4 cores so you can imagine why BD is really sucking right now in terms of video game performance.
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