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worst case senario FX was 32mm diw strink from 45mm pII

so how can pII x 980 even beat it sometimes????????
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Because its a whole new architecture not a die shrink.
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There is some evidence of load scheduling issue killing lesser threaded performance. Windows is loading 2 threads onto a single module which slows down both cores. It need to load the modules first before using the second core, much like hyperthreading with the virtual core. But AMD apparently didn't coordinate with MS.

A fix isn't expected until windows 8. At that point, I expect bulldozer to have stronger single thread performance than Phenom II.
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Because its a whole new architecture not a die shrink.
its a whole new architecture And a die shrink
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its a whole new architecture And a die shrink
Process shrink.

You can't shrink the die of something that didn't exist before.
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Process shrink.

You can't shrink the die of something that didn't exist before.
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worst case senario FX was 32mm diw strink from 45mm pII
A die shrink is not a worst case scenario... a new architecture being bad can actually decrease performance, that's the worst case scenario.

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Process shrink.

You can't shrink the die of something that didn't exist before.
A die shrink is when you take an existing processor and shrink the die.

FX processors didn't exist before so its not a die shrink.
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A die shrink is not a worst case scenario... a new architecture being bad can actually decrease performance, that's the worst case scenario.



A die shrink is when you take an existing processor and shrink the die.

FX processors didn't exist before so its not a die shrink.
Anyways i was still correct, Since its using a smaller die then phII And is a new arch.

FX existed before just not the same arch as now.
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Anyways i was still correct, Since its using a smaller die then phII And is a new arch.

FX existed before just not the same arch as now.
FX is a marketing name not a particular CPU. Same as Intel denotes Extreme series by placing an X at the end of a CPU model number.. There are Extreme i7s and Extreme C2Q. AMD FX = Intel Extreme.
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FX is a marketing name not a particular CPU. Same as Intel denotes Extreme series by placing an X at the end of a CPU model number.. There are Extreme i7s and Extreme C2Q. AMD FX = Intel Extreme.
I understand that. i was just saying the name FX has been around for a while.
i dont even remember what socket the original Athlon fx was on. 939?
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