Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › APUs are the future, and AMD Fusion is at the forefront dominating Intel and Nvidia.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

APUs are the future, and AMD Fusion is at the forefront dominating Intel and Nvidia. - Page 2

post #11 of 40
Fusion is the future, for AMD.

However, Intel is gradually catching up to their game.
post #12 of 40
Quote:
the tablet will eclipse the desktop
lol
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4460 Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H sapphire R9 290 Crucial Ballistix 1866mhz cas9  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
WD caviar blue 1tb WD caviar black 500gb Samsung 840 Evo stock :^) 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Windows 8.1 Ubuntu LG IPS 236v Asus 1080p IPS  
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer K272HUL Das Model S Ultimate Corsair TX750 Corsair 350D 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Mionix Naos 3200 // Razer Deathadder  QcK xonar Dx 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4460 Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H sapphire R9 290 Crucial Ballistix 1866mhz cas9  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
WD caviar blue 1tb WD caviar black 500gb Samsung 840 Evo stock :^) 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Windows 8.1 Ubuntu LG IPS 236v Asus 1080p IPS  
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer K272HUL Das Model S Ultimate Corsair TX750 Corsair 350D 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Mionix Naos 3200 // Razer Deathadder  QcK xonar Dx 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by xPrestonn View Post
lol
70% of the people use desktops just to browse the web. What's so funny here?

The fact that you guys are enthusiast nuts, doesn't mean that all people are like that. Many would gladly change their desktop for a tablet. Especially if it can play WoW.
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 40
^^^This, most consumers don't care about enthusiast parts. My boss litterally thinks Im a nut job for spending the amount of money I have on my computer system, and he's an engineer.

When it comes down to it mos people are going to want to take the route that requires the least amount of maintenance and takes up the least amount of space. Tablets are the future of mainstream computing along with smartphones.

The people on this forum and forums like it are like car enthusiasts. We all surely don't drive around in a Lotus Elise or Subaru WRX-STI.

Related to OP:

Personally I think the Fusion market will do extremely well, it eliminates the need of adding a component to most low-mid end systems by integrating the GPU with the CPU. If it keeps up at this rate we will see what happened with Sound cards from 2002 onwards. (I can't find the sources, but if you look at the sales in numbers for sound cards from this time onwards, you will see a definate downward trend due to integrated sound chips.)

Fusion will, if anything, replace the need for your low to mid end graphics.
Edited by Weasel555 - 10/13/11 at 6:15am
Home Computer
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-6600k  ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO LGA 1151 Intel Z170 Sapphire R9-290 Tri-x G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1x Crucial Mx512 Seagate 2TB FireCuda Gaming SSHD Samsung Samsung 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1x Asus Blu ray Corsair H100i Windows 10 64 Bit Samsung 65" UN65FH6001FXZA 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer XZ350CU Black 35" 21:9 Ultra-wide Curved M... E Element Mechanical Eagle Z-77 Programable RGB... NZXT HALE 850W NZXT Crafted Series Phantom Black / Green Trim ... 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Corsair M65 OCZ HYPERSONIC Gaming Mouse Pad Logitech Z313 25 W 2.1 Speaker System Corsair Void Wireless Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
Home Computer
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-6600k  ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO LGA 1151 Intel Z170 Sapphire R9-290 Tri-x G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1x Crucial Mx512 Seagate 2TB FireCuda Gaming SSHD Samsung Samsung 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1x Asus Blu ray Corsair H100i Windows 10 64 Bit Samsung 65" UN65FH6001FXZA 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer XZ350CU Black 35" 21:9 Ultra-wide Curved M... E Element Mechanical Eagle Z-77 Programable RGB... NZXT HALE 850W NZXT Crafted Series Phantom Black / Green Trim ... 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Corsair M65 OCZ HYPERSONIC Gaming Mouse Pad Logitech Z313 25 W 2.1 Speaker System Corsair Void Wireless Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 40
People also said that the desktop market will die because of laptops. Look what happened: yes the users that don't need the power of a desktop moved to laptops. As hardware progresses so does software. When our tablets equal 2600Ks, think about what kind of stuff a desktop can achieve?

we're long past the point where a normal e-mail reading, web browsing dude would need a desktop but I see desktops chugging along fine. They're more fine tuned to be gaming rigs or workstations but they haven't gone anywhere.
 
Benching
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[i7 5960X @ 4.8GHz] [Rampage V Extreme] [Titan 1400MHz (1500MHz bench)] [Various] 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
[250GB 840EVO +2x SpinpointF3 1TB RAID0] [LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change] [XSPC X2O 750 pump/res] [Monsta 360 full copper + EK XT 360 + XT 240] 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
[Crossover 27Q LED-P 1440p+ASUS 1200p+LG 1080p] [Corsair AX1200] [Dimastech Easy v3.0] [Sennheiser HD558s] 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
FX 8320, FX 8350, Phenom II x2 555BE i7 3930K, i7 860, i7 4770K, 68x Celeron D CVF, commando, 2x RIVE, Z87X-OC Asus 4870x2, Sapphire 4870 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
2x 5870, 5850, 5830, 5770 2x 3870x2, 3870 GTX Titan, GTX 480, GTX 590 GTX 285, GTX 260, 4x 9800GT, 8800GTX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
4x4GB vengeance, 2x4GB predatorX, 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 Intel X25-M 80GB LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change OCN Marksman 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
2x old tek slims (GPU) Various watercooling stuff win7, winxp AX1200 
Case
test bench / cardboard box 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Benching
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[i7 5960X @ 4.8GHz] [Rampage V Extreme] [Titan 1400MHz (1500MHz bench)] [Various] 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
[250GB 840EVO +2x SpinpointF3 1TB RAID0] [LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change] [XSPC X2O 750 pump/res] [Monsta 360 full copper + EK XT 360 + XT 240] 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
[Crossover 27Q LED-P 1440p+ASUS 1200p+LG 1080p] [Corsair AX1200] [Dimastech Easy v3.0] [Sennheiser HD558s] 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
FX 8320, FX 8350, Phenom II x2 555BE i7 3930K, i7 860, i7 4770K, 68x Celeron D CVF, commando, 2x RIVE, Z87X-OC Asus 4870x2, Sapphire 4870 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
2x 5870, 5850, 5830, 5770 2x 3870x2, 3870 GTX Titan, GTX 480, GTX 590 GTX 285, GTX 260, 4x 9800GT, 8800GTX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
4x4GB vengeance, 2x4GB predatorX, 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 Intel X25-M 80GB LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change OCN Marksman 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
2x old tek slims (GPU) Various watercooling stuff win7, winxp AX1200 
Case
test bench / cardboard box 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alatar View Post
People also said that the desktop market will die because of laptops. Look what happened: yes the users that don't need the power of a desktop moved to laptops. As hardware progresses so does software. When our tablets equal 2600Ks, think about what kind of stuff a desktop can achieve?

we're long past the point where a normal e-mail reading, web browsing dude would need a desktop but I see desktops chugging along fine. They're more fine tuned to be gaming rigs or workstations but they haven't gone anywhere.
Less people as % of general population have desktops now, compared to 5-10 years ago, and that number will drop further, until one day, definitely within the next 100 years, as posted by OP, it will vanish. I'm convinced of that.
Desktops take lots of space, produce noise and gather dust. Require lots of cables, and if nothing else, people prove that they dislike cables.

There will be a point in time when smaller devices will reach the performance and price and convenience of desktops, without having most of the disadvantages (0 mobility, and the above listed), at which point desktops will vanish from general market, and be left as toys for the biased.

IMO.
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 40
I agree and right now I am at a crossroads whether to build a BD or a fusion desktop, I think the BD would be more of the right choice?

I did some research and found the AMD Fusion/APU just Google "mid range gaming laptop"

I was wanting one to play one specific not so demanding game, boy was I surprised what I found the AMD Fusion/APU A6-3400M could do

AMD A6-3400M Quad-core L2 cache 1.4GHz/Turbo 2.3GHz (cpu speeds vary during application use)
AMD Radeon® HD 6720G2 1GB DDR3 (Radeon HD 6520G cross fired with a Radeon HD 6000m = 6720G2)





Temps are after this mornings 3DMark11 run:
AMD Radeon HD 6750M video card benchmark result - AMD A6-3400M,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K53TA score: P1570 3DMarks


Gaming I reach about 79c
Arrowslinger
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Gigabyte 5870 HD Kingston HyperX 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Blue LG UH12LS28 Super Multi Blue Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liqui... Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG Flatron W2600H 26" LCD Razer Lycosa Raidmax RX-1000AE 80 Plus Gold Zalman Z9 Plus  
MouseAudio
Razer Lachesis Realtek Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
Arrowslinger
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Gigabyte 5870 HD Kingston HyperX 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Blue LG UH12LS28 Super Multi Blue Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liqui... Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG Flatron W2600H 26" LCD Razer Lycosa Raidmax RX-1000AE 80 Plus Gold Zalman Z9 Plus  
MouseAudio
Razer Lachesis Realtek Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #18 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronnin426850 View Post
Less people as % of general population have desktops now, compared to 5-10 years ago, and that number will drop further, until one day, definitely within the next 100 years, as posted by OP, it will vanish. I'm convinced of that.
Desktops take lots of space, produce noise and gather dust. Require lots of cables, and if nothing else, people prove that they dislike cables.

There will be a point in time when smaller devices will reach the performance and price and convenience of desktops, without having most of the disadvantages (0 mobility, and the above listed), at which point desktops will vanish from general market, and be left as toys for the biased.

IMO.
Yeah the amount of people using desktops will drop definitely, but will desktops disappear? Unless something dramatic happens, I don't think so. Not in the near future anyways (can't really comment on that 100 years thing...).

Our desktops are not all powerful, as long as there is an advantage in having a more powerful system, desktops and HPC/supercomputer systems will exist. We're no where near having enough performance even in the supercomputer market, not to mention the smartphone/handheld market.

Again, normal users might favor handheld devices over desktops just like they did with laptops, but to say that they're going to replace the desktop? imo, no.
 
Benching
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[i7 5960X @ 4.8GHz] [Rampage V Extreme] [Titan 1400MHz (1500MHz bench)] [Various] 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
[250GB 840EVO +2x SpinpointF3 1TB RAID0] [LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change] [XSPC X2O 750 pump/res] [Monsta 360 full copper + EK XT 360 + XT 240] 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
[Crossover 27Q LED-P 1440p+ASUS 1200p+LG 1080p] [Corsair AX1200] [Dimastech Easy v3.0] [Sennheiser HD558s] 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
FX 8320, FX 8350, Phenom II x2 555BE i7 3930K, i7 860, i7 4770K, 68x Celeron D CVF, commando, 2x RIVE, Z87X-OC Asus 4870x2, Sapphire 4870 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
2x 5870, 5850, 5830, 5770 2x 3870x2, 3870 GTX Titan, GTX 480, GTX 590 GTX 285, GTX 260, 4x 9800GT, 8800GTX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
4x4GB vengeance, 2x4GB predatorX, 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 Intel X25-M 80GB LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change OCN Marksman 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
2x old tek slims (GPU) Various watercooling stuff win7, winxp AX1200 
Case
test bench / cardboard box 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Benching
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[i7 5960X @ 4.8GHz] [Rampage V Extreme] [Titan 1400MHz (1500MHz bench)] [Various] 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
[250GB 840EVO +2x SpinpointF3 1TB RAID0] [LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change] [XSPC X2O 750 pump/res] [Monsta 360 full copper + EK XT 360 + XT 240] 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
[Crossover 27Q LED-P 1440p+ASUS 1200p+LG 1080p] [Corsair AX1200] [Dimastech Easy v3.0] [Sennheiser HD558s] 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
FX 8320, FX 8350, Phenom II x2 555BE i7 3930K, i7 860, i7 4770K, 68x Celeron D CVF, commando, 2x RIVE, Z87X-OC Asus 4870x2, Sapphire 4870 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
2x 5870, 5850, 5830, 5770 2x 3870x2, 3870 GTX Titan, GTX 480, GTX 590 GTX 285, GTX 260, 4x 9800GT, 8800GTX 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
4x4GB vengeance, 2x4GB predatorX, 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 Intel X25-M 80GB LD PC-V2 SS Phase Change OCN Marksman 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
2x old tek slims (GPU) Various watercooling stuff win7, winxp AX1200 
Case
test bench / cardboard box 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by zrlan7710 View Post
Fusion is the future, for AMD.

However, Intel is gradually catching up to their game.
Intel is about 4-6 generations in regards to design behind AMD and nvidia.I wonder whats going to happen when the x86 gpgpu model gets improved ? I think AMD wants to be rid of the FPU. They have the tech to do it. theres just no solid programming model, yet.
post #20 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCollins View Post
Intel is about 4-6 generations in regards to design behind AMD and nvidia.I wonder whats going to happen when the x86 gpgpu model gets improved ? I think AMD wants to be rid of the FPU. They have the tech to do it. theres just no solid programming model, yet.
Intel is 6 generations behind AMD? Don't get me wrong, I love AMD, but... What are you on, mate?
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
  • APUs are the future, and AMD Fusion is at the forefront dominating Intel and Nvidia.
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › APUs are the future, and AMD Fusion is at the forefront dominating Intel and Nvidia.