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Intel is 6 generations behind AMD? Don't get me wrong, I love AMD, but... What are you on, mate?
In GpGPU design. they really are that far behind AMD and Nvidia. Nvidia has a head start in GpGPU over AMD however when it comes to GPGPU.

But Nvidia doesn't have the market presence in x86 that AMD does, so they had to do something to stay relevant in supercomputing.

the market looks like it does right now today due to Intel dominance in X86, but in 5-7 year its a whole new ballgame.

the real thing slowing it all down is the programming model and the software library's.I would honestly say that Nvidia has a 2 generation head start on AMD right now in that department. that siad Nvidia was not aiming at a heterogeneous processing design like AMD.which I think was what really fueled their purchase of ATI.

That where I think AMD may have a huge lead over both Intel and Nvidia.

Intel still has the process advantage, but we are starting to see that effect of process nodes sputtering out. Its gonna take more then transistor counts and node size to make the next big leap.

It's hard to say for sure, but if the programming model and software developer support gets where it needs to be and AMD keeps executing on these more heterogeneous designs. You can bet you butt, that AMD will become the market leader in 5-7 years.

IF IF IF

the market goes in that direction.

IF
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Will tablets and phones increase in presence? Yes. Will they become the go to medium? Yes, for less powerful and commonly used software.

But you can forget about the rest. A typical keyboard/mouse yields much more productivity. And hardcore gamers, engineers, software developers, special effect artists, graphic designers, and so on all will still need not only something to power the needs, but proper accessories like a decent sized monitor, and so on.
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Will tablets and phones increase in presence? Yes. Will they become the go to medium? Yes, for less powerful and commonly used software.

But you can forget about the rest. A typical keyboard/mouse yields much more productivity. And hardcore gamers, engineers, software developers, special effect artists, graphic designers, and so on all will still need not only something to power the needs, but proper accessories like a decent sized monitor, and so on.
Voice recognition will play it's part. Perhaps advances in touch computing will yield better on screen keyboards for tablets, etc. The Mouse can already be replaced by the touchscreen...and a digitizer pen can be much more precise than a mouse.

As far as graphic designers, special effect artists...

That is a very "specialized" group. Of course I'm talking about 99% of the consumers and the majority of gamers.
    
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Will tablets and phones increase in presence? Yes. Will they become the go to medium? Yes, for less powerful and commonly used software.

But you can forget about the rest. A typical keyboard/mouse yields much more productivity. And hardcore gamers, engineers, software developers, special effect artists, graphic designers, and so on all will still need not only something to power the needs, but proper accessories like a decent sized monitor, and so on.
You sound like those old guys from IBM - "A mouse? You serious??".

Thruth be, with touch screens + 3D view + sensor gamepads today, I already see a full-3D virtual reality for gaming and design, like in Minority Report, which can be powered by a device with no keyboard, mouse or monitor.
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isnt bulldozer going to be in trinity, and therefore, the future ?
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You sound like those old guys from IBM - "A mouse? You serious??".

Thruth be, with touch screens + 3D view + sensor gamepads today, I already see a full-3D virtual reality for gaming and design, like in Minority Report, which can be powered by a device with no keyboard, mouse or monitor.
Touch screens won't be the default pointing device for all users until we commit proper genocide on all those vile oily-skinned people.

Alas, farewell, cruel world!
    
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Voice recognition will play it's part. Perhaps advances in touch computing will yield better on screen keyboards for tablets, etc. The Mouse can already be replaced by the touchscreen...and a digitizer pen can be much more precise than a mouse.

As far as graphic designers, special effect artists...

That is a very "specialized" group. Of course I'm talking about 99% of the consumers and the majority of gamers.
Using a touch screen the sice of the Tab you are putting a lot more workload to your arm. With Mouse you only have to make small moments. To me its will take a long time for Tab to come close to replacement PCs. They are 95% used for entertainment which i still prefer in PC.
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As a programmer I use a 23 inch main monitor and a 17 inch secondary monitor, I FREQUENTLY find myself scrambling around and reorganizing windows. I intend to purchase 2 more of the 23 inch monitors at some point in the future. My point is, for a lot of tasks having anything less than a wall of LCD is unacceptable, to the point I don't even try to program on my laptop. Doing so feels kindof like trying to ride a bike with a flat tire. Touchscreens suck due to lack of tactile feedback and WPM rates suffer, mobile devices lack the space and power to do lots of things etc. Desktops have no need to fear being phased out among programmers or anyone who does 3d work.
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Wrong argument on the wrong forum.
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Um, 100 years from now? I would imagine WAY sooner than that. Look where technology was 100 years ago? 100 years from now we're going to be living in the Matrix or something. LOL. WE WILL BE COMPUTERS.

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QTF, 100 years, I better have a 2600k x10 just to enhance my thoughts and record body irregularities so that I may live to be 500.

I see were your going with this OP, but the same way the original computer was the size of a house, super computer are still, you guessed it, the size of a house. It is true that soon we will have a 2600k powered cell phone, but that wont stop people from owning more powerful devices the size of our modern computers. Yes, a modern cheep laptop is twice as powerful as an old computer, but does that mean that big computer should be thrown out?

Naw, same as when movies came out, people were on and on about how books would be gone.
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