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Wrong argument on the wrong forum.
Not really, if any desktop "replacing" happens it will happen with smaller quieter machines, probably using APUs. My point was that desktops are and probably will continue to be irreplaceable for lots of users.
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I recently built a system for a friend and used the a8-3850 i was amazed at the performance of that apu. It kept up with my x6 no problem for the most part, and the only time they're were any really differences was in video encoding, and it wasn't that noticeable.
after i read some reviews about the a8-3850 performance and read some videos, i actually questioned myself in buying a discrete gpu - cpu rig too.

that thing seems to deliver all that i need in gaming, especially if you crossfire it with a 6770.
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post #33 of 40
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I agree and right now I am at a crossroads whether to build a BD or a fusion desktop, I think the BD would be more of the right choice?
for a laptop its definitely fusion for sure.

but for a desktop, fusion seems to deliver 80 fps for starcraft 2 in medium settings, which is quite considerable. and similar fps for crysis etc.

there are videos on the net, fusion playing bc3 etc. very very good results.

of course you can only hybrid-crossfire at most a 6770 with the in-core gpu.
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Um, 100 years from now? I would imagine WAY sooner than that. Look where technology was 100 years ago? 100 years from now we're going to be living in the Matrix or something. LOL. WE WILL BE COMPUTERS.

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If we haven't had 800 years of dark ages we'd be colonizing space.
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after i read some reviews about the a8-3850 performance and read some videos, i actually questioned myself in buying a discrete gpu - cpu rig too.

that thing seems to deliver all that i need in gaming, especially if you crossfire it with a 6770.
I don't think APUs are quite there yet for serious gamers. For a casual gaming desktop or htpc, it'll be great. It would be really good for budget minded people as well. What will slow AMD fusion down is AMD themselves if they think creating an APU that is too powerful will take away from the discrete graphics market. But I think they will be shooting themselves in the foot with that kind of thinking. People want something innovative, and your average desktop with a cpu and video card isn't very exciting or innovative.
    
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QTF, 100 years, I better have a 2600k x10 just to enhance my thoughts and record body irregularities so that I may live to be 500.

I see were your going with this OP, but the same way the original computer was the size of a house, super computer are still, you guessed it, the size of a house. It is true that soon we will have a 2600k powered cell phone, but that wont stop people from owning more powerful devices the size of our modern computers. Yes, a modern cheep laptop is twice as powerful as an old computer, but does that mean that big computer should be thrown out?

Naw, same as when movies came out, people were on and on about how books would be gone.
To a very small certain extent, yes, there will always be big super computers for that small specialized group that will need them. But I'm talking mainstream here. I'm not talking about super computers that help to run a big corporation, I'm talking about 99% of the population that use ordinary computers, and the majority of gamers.

On another note: I think there was even talks about microsoft's next console using an APU.
    
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Touch screens won't be the default pointing device for all users until we commit proper genocide on all those vile oily-skinned people.

Alas, farewell, cruel world!
When some people get angry, they pound their keyboards.

When some people who use touchscreens get angry


My main irk with touchscreens is the lack of tactile feedback.
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APU's don't belong in desktops unless it somehow makes the CPU faster at doing CPU things, there is a reason why discrete graphics exist. I don't want to have to build a new rig every time that I need a faster GPU when I could just drop 250 on a new card every time it's time for faster graphics. I would enjoy better power usage in my laptop however, getting 2 hours of battery on a 12 cell with the CPU running at the lowest frequency does suck.
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APU's don't belong in desktops unless it somehow makes the CPU faster at doing CPU things, there is a reason why discrete graphics exist. I don't want to have to build a new rig every time that I need a faster GPU when I could just drop 250 on a new card every time it's time for faster graphics. I would enjoy better power usage in my laptop however, getting 2 hours of battery on a 12 cell with the CPU running at the lowest frequency does suck.
Tell that to all the people with Fusion desktops.
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Tired of talking about Bulldozer, let's talk about the future...and to me, the future is APUs, not these enthusiast processors people are putting in these huge desktop towers.

High performance computers getting smaller...that's the future, and APUs are what is going to make that happen.

Now I'm not going to hate on your desktop running crossfire or sli, I just think APUs are the future. Tablets will replace the desktop form factor for mainstream users. Let me say that again...tablets will eclipse the desktop form factor for mainstream users eventually. Heck a century from now or possibly a lot sooner people will be walking around with cell phones much more powerful than your i7 2600k. Think about that.

The one thing that has impressed me more than anything in the past 2 years is AMD's APU line up.

Reason why? I own an Acer W500, which uses a C-50 APU. Has a 9 watt TDP and performs admirably. Not a gaming beast, lol, but I can play Portal on it just fine considering it has a 6250 graphics found in the C-50. Full HD video plays flawless. Processor is a bit on the sluggish side at 1.0ghz, but the gpu is impressive.

Now with the new Llano APU line up I can make these general statements...

If we are talking mainstream desktops, Llano is probably the best option right now. If were talking mainstream laptops, Llano is the best option. If were talking tablets, AMD APUs offer the best performance.

Intel can't touch Llano right now. Nvidia doesn't have anything to compete with the performance AMD APU whether it be tablets, laptops, desktop, etc.

Considering Llano's impressive performance and with AMD Trinity around the corner which is rumored 50% faster than Llano...

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-2...t-206052.shtml

...it makes sense as to why Bulldozer caved. AMD is more focused on the future: AMD Fusion.

What do you guys think.
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