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Too much power consumption. I will most likely go with ivy bridge or Sandy Bridge-E. I used to be an AMD fanboy, but not any more.
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LOL. Why would anyone even bother testing that?
My E-350 netbook can playback very high bitrate 1080p .mkv files without a stutter.
 
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Bulldozer wasn't as bad as everyone says. Just watch, in 6 months a new revision will be out that will clock higher and have better power consumption.
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Bulldozer wasn't as bad as everyone says. Just watch, in 6 months a new revision will be out that will clock higher and have better power consumption.
Why didn't they just delay it another 6 months instead of releasing this garbage then?

In 6 months IB will be out.
    
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I use my 990x for what it's made for. Not for the fanboyism. It still beats out BD by a long shot. Plus, this is OCN. Extreme and overkill are a part of this site. Performance is what I care about. Not a price tag. Also, seeing as I'm on the almost 3 year old x58 chipset and still winning against the newest AMD products.... point proven.
Then you should stay in the Intel forum, not taking the time to come to the AMD forum being a dick to AMD fans....
    
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Bulldozer wasn't as bad as everyone says. Just watch, in 6 months a new revision will be out that will clock higher and have better power consumption.
Nobody knows how the BD architecture will mature but at the moment we are discussing the FX-8150 performance or the lack thereof.
    
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Sad days, i can forsee AMD will withdraw from the CPU market in the not too distant future, and will end up concentrating on GPU's. Sounds hard to believe but it's highly likely.
Yep I think so too.
And if that does happen you two better hope to god that another company arises fast, so that Intel won't stop making new stuff and crack up the prices. Also that AMD doesn't have one last favor for Intel and drop their x64 license. Forcing them to completely redesign their processor on a unheard-of scale.
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inb4lock.
Pretty much
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power consumption is not that bad...
http://cdn5.tweaktown.com/content/4/...FCIiwu-uef.png
But since its worse than the intel, its a devastating failure

My 2 cents:
The community Over-hyped it, JF-AMD and AMD did not ever say flat out that in a side by side competition that they would destroy Intel, it was randoms in the forums that said that and got everyone over-hyped into stupidity. IMO, Bulldozer is a success. It was designed similar to the way a GPU is designed and AMD made it work. They pretty much caught up with Intel in the things they viewed as important. Single-Threaded performance was not what they were worried about, Single-Threaded applications are a thing of the past, everything is better multi-threaded and everything is becoming Multi-threaded. They wanted to improve Multi-Threaded performance and they did that by a long shot.

To all the people saying it is a fail, look at the C2 PhIIs: When AMD released the C3 versions the performance was increased slightly, Overclock-ability was increased, power usage was dropped, and temperatures were lowered. All new architectures have needed a little work before they were perfect. Look at Fermi the first gen Fermi were not that amazing, now they are doing great. Give AMD some time and they may very well improve upon BD. In the end BD is far from a fail and is innovation on AMD's part, with making a new architecture that they will improve upon in future releases.

Well i guess that's the end for me trying to convince people.
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Bulldozer wasn't as bad as everyone says. Just watch, in 6 months a new revision will be out that will clock higher and have better power consumption.
did you see amd's plan? 10-15% performance increase each year. not a very large boost from bulldozer to piledriver to steamroller. ivy bridge with same power consumption as Sandy bridge with up to 37% performance boost coming very soon(or same performance with 50% less power consumption) either one is a much much larger improvement on the same architecture along with support for pcie 3.0 and three monitors.



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What did happen is that management decided there SHOULD BE such cross-engineering ,which meant we had to stop hand-crafting our CPU designs and switch to an SoC design style. This results in giving up a lot of performance, chip area, and efficiency. The reason DEC Alphas were always much faster than anything else is they designed each transistor by hand. Intel and AMD had always done so at least for the critical parts of the chip
seems like they've decided to take shortcuts in the design phase of their chips. quite disappointing really.

and they still have SB-E to consider in the future competition. the enthusiast line of intel hasn't been weak for sometime. pushing the SB architecture to 6 cores with 3d transistors is going to be something that is hard to match. specially when you take shortcuts in designing your architecture.
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Go read the final thoughts and conclusions for each of those reviews in the OP. Hardware Heaven is the only reviewer to actually have anything possitive to say about the CPU...most just try to be nuetral and say it is a decent CPU but they recomend a 2500k, and some reviewers get down right mean. Then go look at the final thoughts of all the reviewer not in the OP and see if you see a similarity.

Plus, you can't mix and match tests from different reviews. You need to keep all the variables the same if you group tests together. It ruins the whole point of the test if you pick and choose.

Having said that...
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My 2 cents:
The community Over-hyped it, JF-AMD and AMD did not ever say flat out that in a side by side competition that they would destroy Intel, it was randoms in the forums that said that and got everyone over-hyped into stupidity. IMO, Bulldozer is a success. It was designed similar to the way a GPU is designed and AMD made it work. They pretty much caught up with Intel in the things they viewed as important. Single-Threaded performance was not what they were worried about, Single-Threaded applications are a thing of the past, everything is better multi-threaded and everything is becoming Multi-threaded. They wanted to improve Multi-Threaded performance and they did that by a long shot.

To all the people saying it is a fail, look at the C2 PhIIs: When AMD released the C3 versions the performance was increased slightly, Overclock-ability was increased, power usage was dropped, and temperatures were lowered. All new architectures have needed a little work before they were perfect. Look at Fermi the first gen Fermi were not that amazing, now they are doing great. Give AMD some time and they may very well improve upon BD. In the end BD is far from a fail and is innovation on AMD's part, with making a new architecture that they will improve upon in future releases.

Well i guess that's the end for me trying to convince people.
I'd like to throw another two pennies on this as well, however I can't believe that AMD's only, single goal was to increase multithreaded performance. A new car doesn't come out with the only goal to make it faster...there also safety, stopping, handling, leg room, options...ect. If that was truely their only goal then it is a decent success.

And as for revisions...AMD's own road map says 10-15% increase in performance per watt with each release. 15% is not enough to catch up in the testing going on right now so that means that even Piledriver is expected to perform worse than a 2500k yet they have a higher MSRP on FX8120 than the 2500k. It just can't work out.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 10/13/11 at 10:07am
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Go read the final thoughts and conclusions for each of those reviews in the OP. Hardware Heaven is the only reviewer to actually have anything possitive to say about the CPU...most just try to be nuetral and say it is a decent CPU but they recomend a 2500k, and some reviewers get down right mean.

Plus, you can't mix and match tests from different reviews. You need to keep all the variables the same if you group tests together. It ruins the whole point of the test if you pick and choose.


check this review..there is lot of tests and benchmarks.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/cp...te-990fxa-ud7/
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