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Jagged you keep posting up that BF3 beta like it matters. That benchmark used 1 6970. It's gpu limited. An Athlon II could pull the same frames as an 8150 in that test
I have a newsflash for you: There are about 3,000 people on OCN right now, and about 3,000 of them DO care about BF3. If you are the in the tiny minority that doesn't care about how well FX performs in games fine, but that doesn't change reality. The reality is that FX does fine in modern DX-11 games when they are actually played as they are meant to be played, and not intentionally hamstrung to try to make FX look bad.
    
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post #142 of 513
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im not bashing the FX, im bashing the company that spent five years making it, see my above post. and you posting those images again and again dosnt change the fact that its a gpu limited test, theres a reason theyre all within the margin of error. at least bring something logical to the table, please.
Agreed. I think the five years in the making is what the problem is though. Think about the architecture of 5 years ago. If this was realeased then it would be a smoking CPU that blasted everything unless you need an energy efficient CPU. The problem is it was realeased after all of the I sereies except E. If this had even launched two years ago It would still have been competitive.

Look I am an AMD guy. So don't come to me and say I am an Intel Fanboi. I have only purchase 1 Intel setup my entire life and I am so disheartened by what has transpired I don't know if my next platform will be AMD or not. I bought a 990FX board to prepare and I need to replace my 720BE but I don't think it will be with FX. Prob will be Zosma.
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8150 4.7GHz vs 2600K 5.2GHz + 3xHD6970...500MHz more clocked then FX8150 ...
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post #144 of 513
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who says you cant overclock the non k series, its not as easy no, but no harder than trying to get a phenom to 4ghz, hmm? lets see, by your logic intel could just take the 2500 and 2600 off the market and not lose sales, yes? unlocked multiplier or not they still yield formidable performance at stock speeds. they should take them off the market, i dont see it hurting them, and it would save the average uninformed buyer from making a poor choice for future resistant computing.

new cpus bring new features not accommodated by old boards. so its easier to utilize your features when theres 3-4 different chipsets to distinguish between for your cpu as apposed to 20. i dont see the 1156 with pcie 3 or support for the 22nm chipset.
LGA775 had AGP,PCI Express 1.0 and 2.0. Its the chipset, not the socket. Via even had a LGA775 chipset that had both AGP and PCI Express.

1156 could support PCIe 3 and 22nm if Intel really wanted it to.

Your counter argument isn't really good.
    
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Amd fan boys need to get over it....The new dildozer requires a power plant to power it. its slower then a thuban. Its bottlenecked when theres more then one card, and all the fanboys are saying, "it just needs windows 8, it needs a bios, it needs to be DISCOVERED!" No...The last 5 years it needed to be prepared and ready for today. We dont want a futuristic chip thats not supported today.
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In some categories it does.

Personally, I find the hypocrisy to be HILARIOUS.

When the quad core was first released, OCN hailed it as innovative, awesome and great...Even though it was "crushed" by the dual cores.

Now that an octo comes out, with actual, "even" scores to it's competition...It's "crushed", "crap" and an epic fail.

I think the vast majority of you need to take a picture because, you'll get a perfect shot of the "rare and elusive" elitist hypocrite.
There's exaggeration going on, sure, but I'd more or less put the CPU where it's being labeled, and that's disappointing. It's got low IPC and high power draw. This is AMD's Netburst. Intel compensated with clock speed, which helped nearly universally. AMD is compensating with more cores, which does not nearly as much.

Sure, it's got decent potential (that being a key word) collective power, but even considering those cases where it all is used (which, remember, are not reflective across the board), an Intel quad core like a Core i5 2500K or Core i7 2600K is a better balance choice for a new buyer. It has better performance in things that aren't threaded beyond belief, still at least comparable performance when they are, much less power consumption, and a cheaper price point (in the case of the Core i5 2500K at least). Time will tell where this goes, but right now, I'd class it as a disappointment.
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I have a newsflash for you: There are about 3,000 people on OCN right now, and about 3,000 of them DO care about BF3. If you are the in the tiny minority that doesn't care about how well FX performs in games fine, but that doesn't change reality. The reality is that FX does fine in modern DX-11 games when they are actually played as they are meant to be played, and not intentionally hamstrung to try to make FX look bad.
It does do fine in games, but not better than the current offerings. That's the problem. As of right now, BD does not bring enough of a gaming performance increase to purchase instead of a Phenom II. Especially when you can get Phenom IIs real cheap.
    
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I have a newsflash for you: There are about 3,000 people on OCN right now, and about 3,000 of them DO care about BF3. If you are the in the tiny minority that doesn't care about how well FX performs in games fine, but that doesn't change reality. The reality is that FX does fine in modern DX-11 games when they are actually played as they are meant to be played, and not intentionally hamstrung to try to make FX look bad.
And all 3000 probably also care about other games as well. You're basing your argument off of the same piece of evidence that clearly is not a great representation of actual cpu performance - any gpu limited test will, in fact, be a terrible way to determine cpu performance. I agree that BD is fine for most gaming applications and if your gpu is powerful enough, won't really hinder your user experience. However, this certainly does not make it the best value when a lowly dual core could replicate the same level of user experience. If this is the basis for your argument, you most certainly should not be recommending BD, but rather AMDs older processors.
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It does do fine in games, but not better than the current offerings. That's the problem. As of right now, BD does not bring enough of a gaming performance increase to purchase instead of a Phenom II. Especially when you can get Phenom IIs real cheap.
$120 cheap at that.
    
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$120 cheap at that.
The Phenom II 840 can literally be had for $59.99 at Microcenter. AMD's pwns the Intel trash in the sub $100 market. Intel pwns the AMD trash in the +200 market.
    
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