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I think people are focusing to much on game benchmarks here. Games make very poor indicators for CPU power. Games mater of course but much cheaper and slower CPU's do very well in games. If they are going to test games they should at least use some thing like a GTX 580 SLI setup to give this kinds of CPU a work out and even then the mother boards and drivers would make the results hard to interpret.
    
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This thread is all about the good result's of FX 8150 and how well it does the job.
So no need to post bad results in this thread.

and Far Cry 2 ? lol really ?
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Ok, this thread is confusing and makes the fx-8150 look on par with a 2600k at times. So what's the truth? Is Bulldozer that much inferior to the 2500k/2600k or is the verdict still up in the air.
    
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post #314 of 513
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Originally Posted by Malcom28 View Post
This thread is all about cherry picking the good result's of FX 8150 and making it looks as if it does the job.
So no need to post bad results in this thread.
Fixed for you.

And you are very welcome.
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Remember that this is new tech/architecture, if there isn't code that can take advantage of it, it simply wont perform well.
It's like building a race car without tuning it. It just wont run up to its potential until it's been tweaked and tuned to do so.
I believe in that as well, which is why I have been careful to not in any of my posts anywhere call BD a fail. Honestly we don't know truly what it can do yet.

We know MS had to address some issues, and there will be more I'm sure. AMD themselves will have to address some issues I think that may have came to light to further revisions, which I'm sure will improve.

That's also why this arch is so innovative in my eyes. It's new all around almost to all, from the consumer to the engineers.

But all too often one person says this and then next thing you know 20 people say the same thing that haven't even a clue what the first guy was talking about. I think this is another case and point of that.

I do feel the nv comparison was a bit bad though, as even at first release Fermi showed the performance and just lacked efficiency.

The big issue with AMD's BD is it lacks both efficiency and performance. But as mentioned by you Black, it could boil down to needing to adjust and make changes to the programs coding to take advantage of what BD does have the ability to do.
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Ok, this thread is confusing and makes the fx-8150 look on par with a 2600k at times. So what's the truth? Is Bulldozer that much inferior to the 2500k/2600k or is the verdict still up in the air.
I collected all of this links for three days now..like 15 different sources and test systems.
Every new product specially with new technology and architecture will have fixe's and improvements that will be released for it .
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so i thought i was the world biggest AMD fanboy but i even gave up on AMD after this round... come on single core performance is worse than last generation.... that right their should be enough to slap some sense into you!
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I believe in that as well, which is why I have been careful to not in any of my posts anywhere call BD a fail. Honestly we don't know truly what it can do yet.

We know MS had to address some issues, and there will be more I'm sure. AMD themselves will have to address some issues I think that may have came to light to further revisions, which I'm sure will improve.

That's also why this arch is so innovative in my eyes. It's new all around almost to all, from the consumer to the engineers.

But all too often one person says this and then next thing you know 20 people say the same thing that haven't even a clue what the first guy was talking about. I think this is another case and point of that.

I do feel the nv comparison was a bit bad though, as even at first release Fermi showed the performance and just lacked efficiency.

The big issue with AMD's BD is it lacks both efficiency and performance. But as mentioned by you Black, it could boil down to needing to adjust and make changes to the programs coding to take advantage of what BD does have the ability to do.
I don't know about this. Why would you release the product then if it's not fully ready to be implemented in the market. Makes no sense. I think the whole, bulldozer will start performing well once X and Y is fixed could just be a pipe dream.
    
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I don't know about this. Why would you release the product then if it's not fully ready to be implemented in the market. Makes no sense. I think the whole, bulldozer will start performing well once X and Y is fixed could just be a pipe dream.
Well that's also very true. Hence I say we kinda don't know yet about it's performance.

It could be spot on, or it could be a bit off. Also, BD has been delayed enough, AMD knew they needed something but it had to be at least manageable.

I'd say BD is very manageable for AMD and if BD was set back anymore it could of been more of a hinder then getting an implementation adequate to their standards in theory of project. There is a reason plenty of revisions come down the pipeline and let's not forget the TLB bug, AMD knows product on the shelf at times is more important than another Delay to market.

In just a very short few more days it will be set in stone more so of what BD is and has to offer. So many reviews have been done yes but many factors have kinda culminated together and some if addressed may help. But being realistic, nothing done is going to get a 100% win for AMD in this round. In other words I don't expect major enough changes to stomp so to speak Intel and their offerings, but for teh price AMD has landed itself in a great market as always, price/performance.

This is all just me though slowly taking it in and being open to possibilities.
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I don't know about this. Why would you release the product then if it's not fully ready to be implemented in the market. Makes no sense. I think the whole, bulldozer will start performing well once X and Y is fixed could just be a pipe dream.
Probably had it as good as it was going to get then delayed then again and delayed.. They probably knew what was up..

We should chalk bulldozer up to a snapshot of what AMD has in store for the future. If they put out a chip thats a little buggy intel pay attention until it's to late and it makes them a few bucks to really get the juices flowing since us diehards will be 8150ing right on through to piledriver.. pII sales were probably starting to take a little hit due to all this 2500k stuff. It's just marketing, period.

Though that won't help enthusiasts, your avg pc user says "EIGHT CORES" "it must be fantastic, pffft to 6 core crap".. Bulldozer keeps AMD's head above water and will show us whats up with piledriver..

This is a completely opinionated statement however..
    
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