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Well that's also very true. Hence I say we kinda don't know yet about it's performance.

It could be spot on, or it could be a bit off. Also, BD has been delayed enough, AMD knew they needed something but it had to be at least manageable.

I'd say BD is very manageable for AMD and if BD was set back anymore it could of been more of a hinder then getting an implementation adequate to their standards in theory of project. There is a reason plenty of revisions come down the pipeline and let's not forget the TLB bug, AMD knows product on the shelf at times is more important than another Delay to market.

In just a very short few more days it will be set in stone more so of what BD is and has to offer. So many reviews have been done yes but many factors have kinda culminated together and some if addressed may help. But being realistic, nothing done is going to get a 100% win for AMD in this round. In other words I don't expect major enough changes to stomp so to speak Intel and their offerings, but for teh price AMD has landed itself in a great market as always, price/performance.

This is all just me though slowly taking it in and being open to possibilities.
See, that's the problem I have. Bulldozer is not even priced competitively because it's priced higher than a 2500k yet both the 8150 and 8120 in the majority of the reviews show that the 2500k is the better proecessor.
    
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See, that's the problem I have. Bulldozer is not even priced competitively because it's priced higher than a 2500k yet both the 8150 and 8120 in the majority of the reviews show that the 2500k is the better proecessor.
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See, that's the problem I have. Bulldozer is not even priced competitively because it's priced higher than a 2500k yet both the 8150 and 8120 in the majority of the reviews show that the 2500k is the better proecessor.
You sir fail.. go put your quarter in the machine and hope a processor pops out..

And my post on this is almost the same as the dudes above mine lolz.. Looks like we will hold out till piledriver !
    
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See, that's the problem I have. Bulldozer is not even priced competitively because it's priced higher than a 2500k yet both the 8150 and 8120 in the majority of the reviews show that the 2500k is the better proecessor.
Are you focusing on gaming only?

In general it isn't miles behind the 2600K, at this point I myself don't feel confident saying Intel's 4 core solution without HT known as the 2500K completely beats the 8120 as a whole.

Let's not forget the MSRP of the 2500K is not $179.99 even though it is relatively easy to find at that price at a few particular options to buy from.

Certain aspects of BD are very, lets say not up to snuff, those issues need addressed in some why if possible. If not then it's obvious AMD has a fiasco to deal with as they can't afford a P4 the way Intel was able to.

I don't have one so I don't have the low down, was tempted to snag one but would like to wait and see how the short comings will develop. This is all just me in my head, so you have every right to have a varied opinion.
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See, that's the problem I have. Bulldozer is not even priced competitively because it's priced higher than a 2500k yet both the 8150 and 8120 in the majority of the reviews show that the 2500k is the better proecessor.
Watch the links at the first page..and you will see that: FX 8150 = i7 2600K > i5 2500K
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Are you focusing on gaming only?

In general it isn't miles behind the 2600K, at this point I myself don't feel confident saying Intel's 4 core solution without HT known as the 2500K completely beats the 8120 as a whole.

Let's not forget the MSRP of the 2500K is not $179.99 even though it is relatively easy to find at that price at a few particular options to buy from.

Certain aspects of BD are very, lets say not up to snuff, those issues need addressed in some why if possible. If not then it's obvious AMD has a fiasco to deal with as they can't afford a P4 the way Intel was able to.

I don't have one so I don't have the low down, was tempted to snag one but would like to wait and see how the short comings will develop. This is all just me in my head, so you have every right to have a varied opinion.
No I'm focusing on the majority of reviews. It's not "miles" behind, it's "years behind" if I can quote one review in regards to overall processor performance. To me this is not good news especially when Intel releases their native 8 core processors.
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Watch the links at the first page..and you will see that: FX 8150 = i7 2600K > i5 2500K

We see no fact but your attempt.

Please try harder.
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No I'm focusing on the majority of reviews. It's not "miles" behind, it's "years behind" if I can quote one review in regards to overall processor performance.
As I said, if certain issues can be addressed which are the ones putting it "years behind" then AMD will land in that segment i suggested.

Otherwise it will be the ignorant consumer to keep them afloat even more so than before BD.

I mean I still hear college kids saying AMD is the best for gaming and their Phenom (not phenom 2) is better than what Intel has.

This scrutiny that BD has come under won't hinder that market one bit, it's a native octo core design so to speak with AMD's implementation of modules.

But MS having to address the scheduler alone means it may be hard for the software to utilize BD efficiently. It may not be so much the arch but the coding creating some havoc.

Either way it's not like it affects me, I already have a 2500k.
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We see no fact but your attempt.

Please try harder.
Once apps start using 8 cores more effectively you might be singing a different tune. For games however, more than 4 cores is probably not going to matter for a very long time. At least not until the next gen consoles come out. In that regard I wouldn't buy a 2500k either at this point. The one thing Bulldozer did succeed at is making the "Quad Core" old news. I wouldn't invest too much into a quad core at this point. But the 2500k isn't exactly priced too high.
    
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The bulldozer is a total failure.
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