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Originally Posted by Don Karnage View Post
A good friend is looking to buy a computer and you're giving him horrible advice pushing him to bulldozer.

There is NO reason to even consider BD these days, NONE whatsoever. A 2500K rig is cheaper, faster, overclocks higher and eats a lot less power. It's also a step less then BD in multithreaded apps and kills it in gaming so again way to persuade your friend to waste his money just because you can't accept sandy bridge is better in every single way.
Really? If the friend is more into productivity and tends to load his PC down the BD is going to own that 2500k. You didn't even ask if he was after games or what he did. Your reply should have looked more like this.

There is nothing wrong with Bulldozer depending on what you want to do with it. If your after gaming the i5 will be about the same performance but a little cheaper. However the AMD will beat the i5 if your going to be GPU bottle necked. If your more so into the productivity the BD actually does shine here if your capable of loading the cores.

Enough with the fan boy crap. Your better off going into your Intel forums and saying they should stop developing CPUs because the i5 is going to last you till you die. Because thats going to fly just as well as the crap that keeps spewing out of your posts.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with bulldozer. It may not game to what you wanted or misled yourself to believe but it performs its tasks fantastically. Not to mention the frame rate differences are beyond anything noticeable anyhow... why not take the route then that offers better productivity without even dropping below playable frame rates. End of story.

Also, its not 8 "Real Cores" Please learn before making statements you cannot back up. Its 4 Modules with 8 physical Threads in essence. A hardware version of HTT.
Edited by ORL - 10/17/11 at 6:32pm
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This may be a little bit off topic, but do any of you guys have links or benches (lol hopefully not biased too much) on how the 1100t/1090t's do versus the FX's at an overclock 4Ghz+ ? Just wanted to know
    
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This may be a little bit off topic, but do any of you guys have links or benches (lol hopefully not biased too much) on how the 1100t/1090t's do versus the FX's at an overclock 4Ghz+ ? Just wanted to know
If you do some searching you find plenty, but i,m sorry to say on this forum, you will get both sides sending you to sites untill your head spins, thoses who hate bd and want to slam it as hard as possible and thoses who see it is not the waste others think it is. More and more benchies and reveiws are coming out almost daily and well, i have to say a lot are proveing the first day benchies wrong, so depends on wich ones you will beleive.
    
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ITs all about the FX-8170...IT'll blow everything out of the water.
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wow that is painful to see.

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ITs all about the FX-8170...IT'll blow everything out of the water.
No, no it won't.
    
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The first failure, even before power consumption, of this processor is to be priced at higher price of a 2500K. In Canada the 8150 is at $282 and the 2500K $238.
The BD should be ok if at least, like the X6, it had 8 REAL cores and so would perform well according to is physical features. But it's not even the case.
W/o taking in consideration the stupid kid wars between AMD/Intel fans, all logical people should admit that it doesn't worth it.
Of course after that, anyone is free to choose and think, it's just an observation.
Some people may have bought a 990fx board already, so they are locked into buying a chip.

Note to self: don't buy a board that is specifically designed to support a chip that hasn't been released.
    
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still it's FX8150 >2500K
and you sound like broken record..FAIL FAIL.
this thread is to show that FX 8150 is the best AMD cpu right now..and its doing great against 2500k.
thats a really pathetic assumption.

1. you cherrypicked benchmarks in favour of the FX-8150.
2. the 2500k will crush the FX-8150 in ANY other benchmark that you have not posted.

So, to summarize: out of 10 events the 2500k will be faster in 9 of them.
So stop spreading this false bs information about Bulldozer being faster/better.
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There is NO reason to even consider BD these days, NONE whatsoever. A 2500K rig is cheaper, faster, overclocks higher and eats a lot less power. It's also a step less then BD in multithreaded apps and kills it in gaming so again way to persuade your friend to waste his money just because you can't accept sandy bridge is better in every single way.
^^^ This is right on the money.

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However the AMD will beat the i5 if your going to be GPU bottle necked.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with bulldozer.

It may not game to what you wanted or misled yourself to believe but it performs its tasks fantastically.
^^^

It's a good chip if your bottlenecked?

Nothing wrong? What about Price, Performance, Efficiency, Heat?

What task does it perform so fantastically? Heavily Multi-Threaded? What about a 2600K?

Now, we have AMD Employee's talking -

The team that designed the K6-2 was the CMD team, which was formed by the acquisition of a company called Nexgen. That team also designed Athlon 64 and Opteron (Athlon was designed by the TMD team). By 2007, all the key CMD folks were gone. The team that was left sucks, and has accomplished little since then other than shrinks to smaller technology and bolting more of the same cores on.

The new CEO [Dirk Meyer] is a guy that once told the design team (when he was a manager in Texas) “if you don’t like it, quit†– and 60 out of 100 people in Sunnyvale quit within a month. They used to hand place and hand instantiate each cell in the design for maximum efficiency and speed – now they rely on tools which perform 20% worse than humans (in order to save money).

This thing is a joke.
Edited by Steak House - 10/18/11 at 4:37am
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Haha, breaking posts down to make it look like I said something else.... Very nice fail.

In reference to the 2600K now your aiming above the price and saying that oh wait there are benchmarks that it wins in this catagory but when talking about price it doesnt matter because its Intel. Even though the BD has won several benchmarks versus this chip as well in the market I will let you slip by as ingnorant and uninformed.

Sorry dude... try agian.

Back to what I actually said. Frame rates alloted will not make the experience any more or less enjoyable as they are beyond the point of notice. And as the 8150 does beat the i5 in quite a few productivity tasks there in making it a wiser choice on the performance aspect.

Yes it does use extra juice. I have never said it didnt. But in all honesty, this is all but ignored in residential applications by most users. Poor argueing point, but somethins to note on the side not effecting performance.
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Haha, breaking posts down to make it look like I said something else.... Very nice fail.
Those are your words, if you want me to quote the whole post I can do that. I prefer not to fill this thread up with more of your rambling nonsense though.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0354589

^^^ That's a 2500K for $180. Cost, Performance, Efficiency - CASE CLOSED - BULLDOZER WILL GO THE WAY OF THE DODO BIRD. I think AMD needs to worry less about beating Intel, and more about beating their previous generation of chips. What A Joke!

ORL - you should start a thread "Bulldozer Beats A Phenom II!" -
Edited by Steak House - 10/18/11 at 2:15pm
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