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Originally Posted by nakano2k1;15370213 
Amazing unboxing....

SOOOO awesome!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxqO8LoHxT4

Kabooooom!!

Damn that metal case!!!! I'm buying this thing now!!!!! I love the metal case !!!!!

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Originally Posted by Steak House;15370223 
^^^ True, BD is occasionally 1 or 2 FPS Faster on GPU bound games, nevermind that's within the margin of accuracy for testing. This thread is about all the good.

1-2 fps?not really..take a look i even did the math for you.. )

13 fps on 1920x1080 | 15 fps on 1024x768
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1741/re5.jpg

4 fps
http://www.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Dirt-31.png

3 fps min | 6 fps avg | 3 fps max
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1285/pg11/amd-fx-8150-black-edition-8-core-processor-vs-core-i7-2600k-review-f1-2011.html

4 fps
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/AMD-FX-8150-vs-Core-i5-2500K-and-Core-i7-2600K-CPU-Review/1402/15

8 fps at 4xAA | 16 fps at 8XAA
http://tech.icrontic.com/files/2011/10/Bulldozer_HAWX2_1680.png

for 35$ that the 2600k cost more you can add to FX 8150 2133MHz and you'll get some more frames per second.
Edited by Malcom28 - 10/19/11 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by LEFTYMAN;15369115 
in the link you recommend & at stock speeds:

STARCRAFT2 bd 244fps 2500k 242fps = GPU bottlenecked irrelevant test

Lost planet 2 bd 79 fps 2600k 79 fps = GPU bottlenecked irrelevant test

Deus Ex bd 82 fps X6 80 fps = GPU bottlenecked irrelevant test



look at this FPS test (tri SLI max OC achieved in both processors)

x4353_22_amd_fx_8150_vs_intel_i7_2600k_crossfirex_hd_6970_x3_head_to_head.png.pagespeed.ic.fl_XgZgiTs.png

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x4353_26_amd_fx_8150_vs_intel_i7_2600k_crossfirex_hd_6970_x3_head_to_head.png.pagespeed.ic.z8g_MoX1Vt.png

x4353_28_amd_fx_8150_vs_intel_i7_2600k_crossfirex_hd_6970_x3_head_to_head.png.pagespeed.ic.Tlx-of4c02.png





There are 2 games so badly coded that even a 3x CF is not enough and fx-8150 and 2600k make a technical draw (equal scores) and there are some more demolisher charts stating how bad bulldozer is where these came from. Not even 3000MHz DDR5 RAM is gonna solve Bulldozer problems....

I am an AMD fanboy keeping my good old 1090t 4gHZ for everyday use and my new flaming 2500k 4.8Ghz for gaming


doh.gif You claim the test's I linked are GPU bound? All three of the ones you listed from Hardware Secrets review(and BD outperformed the i7) are CPU intensive games, were run on a single 6970 @1920x1200 with NO AA,NO AF and low settings. You really think the GPU was that bound? And running SLi or crossfire does nothing but throw driver SLi/crossfire performance into the mix, which is vastly different on different games and platforms. We all know Intel wins in multi-gpu situations. These tests clearly indicate performance where 99% of gamers will use them. Then the tests you linked above in tri-fire the i7 is clocked 500Mhz higher, and I'm sure the systems where completely different. The Hardware Secrets review used the same exact RAM and speeds for all 4 CPU's.
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anyone know if the Fx-41XX/61XX chips are able to unlock yet?
    
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Originally Posted by Redwoodz;15370521 
doh.gif You claim the test's I linked are GPU bound? All three of the ones you listed from Hardware Secrets review(and BD outperformed the i7) are CPU intensive games, were run on a single 6970 @1920x1200 with NO AA,NO AF and low settings. You really think the GPU was that bound? And running SLi or crossfire does nothing but throw driver SLi/crossfire performance into the mix, which is vastly different on different games and platforms. We all know Intel wins in multi-gpu situations. These tests clearly indicate performance where 99% of gamers will use them. Then the tests you linked above in tri-fire the i7 is clocked 500Mhz higher, and I'm sure the systems where completely different. The Hardware Secrets review used the same exact RAM and speeds for all 4 CPU's.

Well, I am not some kind of anti-AMD taliban in fact this is the first time
I am not buying AMD next generation CPU.

I think you are right in a part of your post and wrong in another part:

1. You are right when you say that the Hardwaresecrets test is where 99% of the gamers are moving (so 99% of the gamers are GPU limited ad medium/high res). For this gamers it probably worthless even moving from their Phenom II's.

2.You are wrong when you say that the difference between the tri-fire benchmarks is due to completely different systems (Memory is the same,
OS is the same, drivers are the same, resolution is the same). Only
mobo, cpu and speed are different (and they used the max they could achieve in both testbeds).


As you can see I own an Overclocked GTX570 SLI rig, previously in my
M4N98TD-EVO 1090T 4Ghz and after waiting for bulldozer I bought a 2500k
yesterday.

Moving my 2 MSI GTX-570 Twin Frozer II OC to a FX-8150 rig from 1090t
to FX-8150 wouldn't have been the same improvement than I got with 2500k 4.8Ghz.In fact my SLI cards would perform about the same paired with 1090t and with fx-8150.


My brother will update his gaming rig in a few months and I hope I can sell him
my 2500k and buy a piledriver if it is not so worthless as bulldozer is IMHO.


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1-2 fps?not really..take a look i even did the math for you.. )

13 fps on 1920x1080 | 15 fps on 1024x768
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1741/re5.jpg

4 fps
http://www.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Dirt-31.png

3 fps min | 6 fps avg | 3 fps max
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1285/pg11/amd-fx-8150-black-edition-8-core-processor-vs-core-i7-2600k-review-f1-2011.html

4 fps
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/AMD-FX-8150-vs-Core-i5-2500K-and-Core-i7-2600K-CPU-Review/1402/15

8 fps at 4xAA | 16 fps at 8XAA
http://tech.icrontic.com/files/2011/10/Bulldozer_HAWX2_1680.png

for 35$ that the 2600k cost more you can add to FX 8150 2133MHz and you'll get some more frames per second.

Wow, my mistake Malcom, it was not 1 or 2 fps as I thought. In fact it was 3 or 4 fps on GPU limited benchmarks. Well Done Amd, Well Done!

Also, I watched the youtube video on the packaging, again I say Well Done AMD, Well Done! I would point out that numerous people have received boxes with the seals broken, due to some last minute mistake - errrr change by AMD. But again, this thread is about all the good, so never mind that.
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are you seriously arguing over frames per second?
Holy smoke you blink and you miss 75% of them.

It seems kinda funny to me the intel guys are incessant on trying to get everyone to buy a 2500k or a 2600k, so we can be in with their crowd.....OH BOY I AM EXCITED!!!

can we please move on from the prepubescent teenage middle school attitudes?
I am not buying BD because it slauters intel I am not BD cause it got beat in a few scenarios by Intel, i am buying BD cause:
1, I seriously am not going to have a heart attack if my bill goes up 5 bucks
2. single threaded performance to the eye is completely unnoticeable
3. it will be an absolute joy to tinker with.
4. possibly be the guy that buys one and some magical thing happens and it completely explodes performance wise.
5. really don't care for being with the absolute fastest.
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OK here is the good

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^^^ How you liking yours Tweeky?
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^^^ How you liking yours Tweeky?

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It is slower than the 1090 it replaced but its a new toy for me to play with!!!
    
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